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Freitag, 26. März 2021, 23:01

Typhonium venosum Anfänger

Hi
I expect a tuber of T. venosum soon and have a few questions.

Apparently, it can also grow outdoors if I am not mistaken, even wintering protected outside in not too severe frost?
There is the consideration, instead of letting them stink inside, to keep them in the pot right from the start on the balcony, of course dry until it blooms.
I would also want to take Seramis and leave the plant outside frost-free in autumn as long as possible and then put it in the fridge if necessary.
Or is dry storage in a pot at 20 degrees winter temperature also possible?

What are your experiences?

Sincerely,
Botanicus

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Samstag, 27. März 2021, 00:16

Cultivate them better outside. Inside, the leaves shoot up and often need to be supported. Wintering is better cool and dry, otherwise the early flowers and leaves drive.

You don't have to let them stink inside and if you let them bloom outside in the pot, dry is not necessary. Moist they just push roots earlier and the leaf comes anyway shortly after flowering.

The blazing sun at noon and early afternoon is poorly tolerated in the long run and should be avoided.

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Montag, 5. April 2021, 16:36

All right. I planted the tuber outside in a pot last week. Hope the temperature drop at the moment does not hurt.

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Freitag, 9. April 2021, 17:44

However, the drop in temperature delays the budding. Frost should not get the tuber, flower and leaf shoot but better not. You may need to protect them from night frosts until mid-May.

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Samstag, 10. April 2021, 11:34

Ok, I'll see. that's not happening right now.
I see a shoot tip, but nothing happens. In dracunculus, the shoot grows slowly.
Both stand on the balcony on the floor on the wall.

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Samstag, 10. April 2021, 12:57

With the current temperatures, especially at night, not much will happen.

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Samstag, 10. April 2021, 20:44

Then I'll get the pot in, maybe I can speed it up.

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Freitag, 16. April 2021, 20:40

The tuber stands in peat-free soil +20% perlite.
Somehow nothing happens with the shoot, I have the feeling that the shoot is not quite bulging, possibly dried out although the actual tuber is bulging!

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Freitag, 16. April 2021, 21:37

Don't panic, the actual leaf is surrounded by 4-5 envelope leaves, which at times grow faster than the enveloped leaf and are therefore hollow in time and partly.

I was careless when removing the flower of the Lake Tana form and cut not only the faded flower, but also the leaf shoot. Fortunately, I only caught the two outer envelope leaves, because the rest including the actual leaf had not yet filled in the two outer envelope leaves. Otherwise, there would be several small sheets this year instead of one large one.

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Freitag, 16. April 2021, 22:17

Phew, I'm relieved! Thank you.
I'm just surprised, because my Dracunculus grows properly at the same time.

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Freitag, 16. April 2021, 23:51

Dracunculus comes from the Mediterranean area and grows there in the cool and humid winter and rests in the warm dry summer. The lizard roots need it a little warmer. Whereby large flowering specimens are not deterred from drifting even by low temperatures (e.B. permanently 10 °C, so warm or cold it is at the moment with me in the storage room). But then it goes a little slower.

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Samstag, 17. April 2021, 22:20

Interesting!

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Samstag, 17. April 2021, 22:50

Typhonium venosum (for me the Lake Tana form) is also completely new territory for me.
My two small nodules (with about 3.5 cm diameter and 19 and 21 g) are still sleeping.
I took them out of the basement at the beginning of April so that they would slowly become lively.
At the moment with the dirty weather, this is probably better for them, if the budding is held back a bit before they can get out.

I wanted to plant them in Bernhard's amorpho substrate mixture. Or which substrate is more suitable for this genus?

Regards
Roy

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Samstag, 17. April 2021, 23:23

What does Bernhard's mixture look like?

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Sonntag, 18. April 2021, 10:59

Hello Botanicus,

much has already been written about substrate mixtures here. Everyone has their own opinion. I tried to orient myself on it.

My mix 2020 for Thai species (Amorphos):

• 10 % pond soil (due to clay),
• 30 % perlite,
• 10% pumice,
• 10 % small-grained expanded clay,
• 20 % charcoal granules,
• 20% coarse coconut snippets.

Recipe by Bernhard

1/3 Earth
1/3 perlite
1/3 charcoal segriess

or add 20 - 30% perlite and 10 - 20% charcoal semolina to the soil.

I suspect that Typhonium venosum can cope even with not so high-quality substrate.
Maybe we will be helped here by dung beetles, who have a lot of experience with the lizard roots.

At the bottom of the pot I always put a layer of 1 - 2 cm large clay balls on the bottom of the pot for better drainage.
You never do anything wrong with that.

Regards
Roy

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Sonntag, 18. April 2021, 14:12

Thank you

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Sonntag, 18. April 2021, 14:13

My mix 2020 for Thai species (Amorphos):

• 10 % pond soil (due to clay),
• 30 % perlite,
• 10% pumice,
• 10 % small-grained expanded clay,
• 20 % charcoal granules,
• 20% coarse coconut snippets.

Recipe by Bernhard

1/3 Earth
1/3 perlite
1/3 charcoal segriess
Both mixtures are pearl in front of the sow in the lizard roots.

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Sonntag, 18. April 2021, 14:27

I only have 2 versions anyway:
-Seramis pure, I'm gradually potting all the Araceae in it this year, including a chili by the way.
-Finished peat-free soil mixture, for this I mix perlite to 1/4 to 1/3 parts.

I also have coconut chips, activated carbon, coconut fiber, bark etc. believe but none of this is necessary.
The main thing is that it is not possible to overwater and airy!

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Donnerstag, 22. April 2021, 18:01

By the way, I messed something up despite the signs!
My Typhonium grows well, the Dracunculus, on the other hand, is the one that falters.
I dug it out and lo and behold, it rots in places! The lazy
I cut out places and put the tuber back in the air.

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Mittwoch, 12. Mai 2021, 10:07

So my tuber has bloomed. In the morning at 6 o'clock and 8h later the wrapper was already bent over in the pot. Is this normal?
I thought it would stop a little longer.
Luckily, I at least took a picture with my smartphone in the morning! I was already looking forward to a photo session with a real camera after work, what the heck.
I didn't find the smell so bad now, but cow mimstaroma was not nearly as strong as expected.

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