Aussaat von A. crispifolius und A. bulbifer

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Sonntag, 22. September 2019, 14:47

Aussaat von A. crispifolius und A. bulbifer

About 3 weeks after sowing, the first of 3 crispifolius germs puts its nose over the earth. Of the 12 Bulbifers sown at the same time, however, nothing is yet to be seen.

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Mr. Titanum

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Sonntag, 22. September 2019, 15:21

Hello crap beetle,

3 weeks is quite fast!
Probably a peculiarity of the kind....

Happy growing, Bernhard.

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Sonntag, 22. September 2019, 15:58

Unfortunately, I did not document the sowing date. May have been one or two more weeks. Let's see if I can get that even more.

Edit: I just looked through the order history: The sowing can be a maximum of 4 weeks ago.

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Montag, 23. September 2019, 10:51

This is still plentiful, the time needs other species to give a first sign of life!
Michael

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Dienstag, 24. September 2019, 20:44

Meanwhile, the Bulbifer is also looking at the first tip of the shoot from the earth

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Sonntag, 29. September 2019, 15:48

The 2nd crispifolius looks out of the earth.

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Sonntag, 29. September 2019, 21:52

And tonight, a second Bulbifer is also looking out of the ground.

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Montag, 28. Oktober 2019, 13:30

The third crispifolius is still waiting, while I will lose the first one. But that's no wonder, because it's almost completely white. Only the leaf stalk and the ribs of the leaflets show traces of green.

At the bulbifer already look 5 pieces from the earth.

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Montag, 28. Oktober 2019, 14:55

Hello crap beetle,

That's interesting.... albino seedlings seem to occur again and again with Amorphophallus...

http://www.amorphophallus-forum.de/amorp... s-f26/t5805-f14
Unfortunately, the photos of the white titnaum seedling in the thread in the exotic forum have been deleted.... :-(

Happy growing, Benrhard.

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Montag, 28. Oktober 2019, 18:07

Hello crap beetles,I already had the problem with white seedlings; at an A.prainii sowing, however, all seedlings were white. No one made it.
But I think I have read somewhere that if these white seedlings manage to keep alive for a certain period of time, subsequent leaves will turn green again.
That's interesting. However, I do not have any explanation for this.
Vlt. can Bernhard find out more?
Vg
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Dienstag, 29. Oktober 2019, 09:18

Hello her bleaching faces (... can we still say that today???),

Ortwin, that with +/- chlorophyll-free seedlings will eventually come green leaves again, I have not heard yet.

Was prainii sowing around March 2016?

If so, I also had a batch of it; these came from rareplants.eu or Bjorn Malkmus-Hussein and probably came back to an intraspecific cross between a pink and large-flowered and a yellowish-green and small-flowered clone, which apparently caused a chlorophyll defect in all seeds.

I had 15 seeds, which were almost all germinated after 2 months, but all chlorophyll defect and all were pale yellow and all arrived.

Good that you remembered, Ortwin; I had already successfully displaced this..... ;-)

Happy growing, Bernhard.

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Dienstag, 29. Oktober 2019, 12:14

Hello Bernhard,
yes, they were seeds of rareplants.eu. The germination rate was also 100%. A few had very slight light green parts, so they were very limited in their ability to photosynthesise. But they still didn't make it.
And I still think I've read somewhere that if you manage to produce a second or third leaf, it will turn green and the seedling can survive.
Vg
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Dienstag, 29. Oktober 2019, 12:35

Hello Ortwin,

does this explicitly refer to these prainii seeds of 2016?

I have just read old mails again - I learned from some acquaintances at the time that most of these prainii seedlings had strong chlorophyll defects and received them; few are said to have been green and some slightly panicked.

As a possible explanation, it was discussed that one of the parent plants may be a new species that resembles prainii in the leaf, but is not compatible with prainii and then almost only non-survivable species hybrids come out at this interspecific cross.

But I don't think anyone has ever looked into that...

Happy growing, Bernhard.

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Dienstag, 29. Oktober 2019, 20:55

Hello Bernhard,
no, it is meant more generally. Some crossbreeds observe that white seedlings are formed when the individual species are genetically distant from each other, or as you say so beautifully, that they are not compatible with each other.

I have not yet found any explanation for this.
Vg
Ortwin

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Donnerstag, 31. Oktober 2019, 21:51

Quoted from "Mistkäfer"

At the bulbifer, 5 pieces are already looking out of the ground.

There are now 6.

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Dienstag, 26. November 2019, 13:21

It now looks at the 7th Bulbifer seedling from the earth and one gets the 2nd leaf

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Montag, 27. April 2020, 19:03

Crispifolius eingezogen

The remaining Crispifolius has since moved in. Result: 2.4 g, diameter 1.5 cm height 2 cm

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Of the 8 germinated bulbifers (out of 12) 6 remained, one moved in and the rest pulled in the first leaf. The second leaves will probably not live long after their condition. One pushes her third hand.

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Montag, 27. April 2020, 19:08

That's a nice tuber... :-)

Happy growing, Bernhard.

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Donnerstag, 7. Mai 2020, 22:21

A. bulbifer

I have now isolated the remaining 5 plants in the pot. Then I noticed that all the plants are already going on, even those that had only one leaf and had been moving in for a long time. This was also true of the tuber carefully harvested a few days ago because of discarded leaves. Unfortunately, I wasn't careful enough and damaged the shoot from the new leaf. I hadn't seen it at first. Unfortunately, another leaf had to believe in it, fortunately this time only an old one.

The two largest tubers had about 2 and 2.5 cm in diameter and were therefore about the size of the two bulbills I got 2 years ago. The two smallest tubers had only a little more than 1 cm. Of the 4 ungerminated seeds, in contrast to the germinated ones, which hung completely crumpled still on the tubers, nothing was to be found.

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