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Freitag, 15. September 2017, 18:29

Dracunculus vulgaris - Aussaat - wie?

Tubers fans,

How to treat freshly harvested Dracunculus vulgaris seeds?
How and when to best sow?
Need a cooling phase in moist substrate, or the seeds have to be vernalisiert?

With the request for enlightenment.
Bernhard.

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Freitag, 15. September 2017, 20:23

Hi Bernard,.

This is the description for Bjorn. I still don't have their own Erfahreungen.

Flat sowing in each humic-transmitting substrate at about 15 ° C to 20 ° C in a sunny location. Vulgaris first or the first two winters of frost at least 5 ° C at a sunny location and moderate watering cultivating seedling plants of Dracunculus, as long as the plants are green. Keep completely dry after moving of the foliage at 5 ° C. Planting takes place at the end of spring in the second or third year.



Source: rareplants.es


Greeting

Andreas

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Freitag, 15. September 2017, 20:51

Hi Bernard,.

I've even already seeded D. vulgaris; However was already a few years ago.

It is important fro rauszuholen the seeds of the berries. The pure seed about 0, 5cm deep in loose soil to sow.

Since there are already a couple of years ago I'm not sure if she equal or germinated until spring and then the first summer to autumn and then the winter grown through.

Well, anyway, they then had their normal Wachstumsrhytmus from the second year. In the summer rest and driven then starting in the autumn and the spring growing season. I've given it during the growing season in the winter garden at about 15 degrees, the chance to give the tuber to grow ever larger. This may be the real problem for the cultivation of seeds to grow more plants. I had then lost patience after 3 or 4 years and the young plants to the older. Since the tubers are still very small, you can not deep put enough in the garden to survive the local winter.
Result: A single plant has succeeded of 30 seedlings.

Since I also had a fruit stand on my plants, I tried this year again.
Let's see what is out of it.

Many greetings
Ortwin

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Freitag, 15. September 2017, 22:52

Hello of Andreas,
a vernalization seems Yes not mandatory to be necessary after Bjørn.
I have searched but once a little and (I think at green24) found a post that said that a cooling period is necessary.

Hi Ortwin,.
I got the seeds today tomorrow from the berries...
I'm going these days then according to your recommendation to sow them and again refrigerate a portion; Let's see what happens.

I have enough seeds to all cases since Timo and Jan have given me a fruit stand in Bochum at the titnaun flower.

Thank you both for the quick advice!

Happy sowing, Bernhard.

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Samstag, 16. September 2017, 10:08

Hi Bernard,.

my plan is to divide it the seeds. Are enough, Yes. A portion is stored over the winter in dry and in wet Spaghnum. Both are sown in the spring. Another dose will be seeded immediately and meet outside. If there a shoot appears, moves the pot in the winter garden or quite pure. The last part will be frozen for about a week as a precautionary measure as we have here in the big city of every winter frost and comes out up to then.

Next year I know perhaps how it works.:)

Greeting
Andreas

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Samstag, 16. September 2017, 11:03

Hello of Andreas,

Good idea! I'm looking forward to the result.

Happy sowing, Bernhard.

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Samstag, 16. September 2017, 13:46

Here is my plan :icon_coolnew: .
I have planted a few seeds in a Jiffy peat balls. You will stay in the apartment.
I hope that they germinate until Christmas. The manual I have times from the Internet, aimed at about 20 degrees 1... Last 3 months.

The rest is in the refrigerator until spring arrives, I'll sow them then.
Greeting Olvi

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Samstag, 16. September 2017, 14:32

Hi Phillip,

We'd be so already four... :icon_thumbs1:

Happy sowing, Bernhard.

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Samstag, 16. September 2017, 15:48

Hello everyone
I also got a good amount of seeds today. I've seeded most directly in a mixture of peat and potting soil sand. The seeds lightly pressed, not covered. The pot is now in my cold room under artificial light and some day light (stop basement room). The rest I have put in the fridge, and I will sow in the spring.

Funny, how long that will take, until you get decent tubers gets.

Greetings Ralf

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Montag, 18. September 2017, 20:49

Hello everyone!

The best results are achieved when the seeds sown in the fall and in a cold room/greenhouse at 5-10 ° C kept slightly moist. In the warmer areas/rooms I'd have concerns that the seeds in damp rot...
Don't worry with the sowing, for Mediterranean Geophytes is autumn spring :icon_lol:

As Ortwin has mentioned the planting depth of extraordinary importance - is and even 1/2-year tubers you may quietly burrow 30 cm and deep, may be covered with a layer of leaves and below well drain Act. The plants appear anyway only in the advanced spring, the sooner they are older/bigger. So far there were at least still no problems with lost tubers over the winter (and last winter we had here biting-23 ° C).

LG
Dominik
Viele Grüße aus Göppingen,
Dominik
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Montag, 16. Juli 2018, 19:20

Hello

None of the seeds in the peat balls has germinated. Mid-April all contained only a yellow sauce...

I have sown the seeds from the refrigerator to the 15.4.
Mid-May was put the bowl in the garden
and 6 where later (midsummer), I saw the first seedlings.

Very interesting, because in the 39 days (15.5-24.6) the night temperature was over only 20 times + 10C°. The past 11 nights, up to 24.6, were all warm (+ 10... + 15C °). Dracunculus BC needs well but not as much heat as I thought.

How I can do the advanced culture in the fall is still unclear, Fatemeh report pointing clearly to the issues.
Anyone has success with berries?

Greeting Olvi
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Mittwoch, 18. Juli 2018, 19:42

Mine are sprouted early March and grow since that time. I assume that they are mixed in the winter to feed in the late spring. Then they should go into their normal Wachtumsrythmus.
The a plant that has survived from the previouse sowing this year had a height of 30 cm.
VG
Ortwin

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Sonntag, 14. April 2019, 14:46

Hello everyone
The shell in the post #11 stood outside all winter, covered. At the end of October, the leaves wilted.

While digging today, I found that at least 90% of seedlings formed a tuber. They are small, diameter 3 ... 10mm. Looks like the deeper the tuber has dug in, the bigger it is. The shell is 9 cm deep. The tubers look good but haven't started growing yet. I turned everything into a bigger pot.
Has anyone else looked at how the seeds of last summer are doing?

Greeting Olvi
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Sonntag, 14. April 2019, 18:54

With me, the pot stood outside throughout the winter, after the seedlings are fed in the fall.
Already a few weeks ago the first plants came back and have already a pretty decent size.

VG
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Dienstag, 16. April 2019, 09:23

Hello in the round,

from my plans, nothing has become of the different treatment of the seeds; I know the usual lack of time no longer why, but probably...
I have just sown the seeds in a 20 x 20 cm dish and placed outside. In 2018, then some are germinated, but I have not counted how many; with so many seeds that I gave in the Cup, but only a small fraction.

Anyway it now looks like: index.php? page = attachment & attachmentID = 4916
In addition to the seedlings/nodules that drive small leaves, nder a layer of MOSS were very many dead / hollow to find seed shells.
I wanted to first remove the substrate and look for speeding tickets, but then found seeds began to germinate apparently only now and therefore decided that everything in the shell remains.

It seems that some seeds will germinate only now after the second winter out there.
It's also so in Symplocarpus, that a part of seed Yes not germinate after the first period of vernalization, but only after the second.

Happy growing, Bernhard.

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