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Montag, 16. Mai 2016, 11:51

Titanum bekommt schnell braune "Spitzen"

Hello crazy Amorphophallus :-D

I use here to me to introduce my first post:
My name is Marco, I am 28 years old and I live in Zurich. Ever since I can remember back plants were my hobby.
Unfortunately I decided but despite my passion for another profession and work at the moment as CNC specialist (Polymechanic). I was about 2 years ago here on this special plants and have here diligently read in the Forum.

So now to the problem. I had my Titanum sooner always relatively simple held. South window, 16-25 degrees, a little draft, Earth taken that just was there, so not really respected what needs the plant. Had also never problems.:icon_confused:

Now but we have moved and I made a Gewächshäuschen me from a minus with 15Watt heating mat and 30 watt LED plant lights, brand equity building (friend wanted to order with the Pfalnzen :icon_blush: ) what I can say is that the temperature is between 22 and 28 ° c varies, rel. Air humidity is 80-90%. Lux are with 1500-2000. Since I'm the Titanum in this House the leaf tips are quickly braun...bleiben but always the same to the catchment of the blade (approx. 8-12 months). Unfortunately, I could dig out still no tuber because others arrived in the a drive and stood at even 2 sheets at the same time. Unfortunately had all Brown tips. The plants are bombproof in Seramis, so no gewackle or anything else.

Am just something unsettled whether this could be permanent damage, so I ask here whether someone had also been a problem, and what it could be?:icon_help:
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Montag, 16. Mai 2016, 15:29

Actually, that's a sign of missing air humidity, but it falls flat probably 80-90%.
When the plant was previously only on the window and is now at a high air humidity, probably by the high humidity.
Is a conversion for the plant.

I was also at, but only in normal room air.

MfG
Stephan

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Mittwoch, 18. Mai 2016, 17:07

Hello Nokkie,

If your Folienhaus is very dense, that could be the plant also monstrous possibility to the transpiration; secondary can cause this calcium deficiency, since CA only passively transported with the transpiration stream (water transport) in the plant. Therefore, it can then cause leaf margin necrosis.
What also irritates me in your last picture, is the ver tanning at the point where the blade splits in the typical three 'arms'; the I also not normal...
You could ensure more ventilation so just once and see if it promotes the transpiration of the plant and then no symptoms appearing on new plants; that would speak for the above suspicion.
(http://www.canna-de.com/info-courier_calcium ; http://www.hortipendium.de/Calcium )

A second option for the damage could be the LED lighting; you emit yes no continual range but very narrow wavelength ranges. Or are the LEDs, which emit a white light coating? If so, would be interesting to know what colour you have - warm white or cool white? -cih, which the cold white LEDs emit too little red light for plants that give the warm white already read somewhere once. (For fluorescent tubes is cool white with me but better than warm white...)
I think of LEDs to the plants exposure so far, not much – in the field of in vitro culture (fabric, Meristiemkultur) we know that growth never as good as under fluorescent tubes is the standard LEDs for the lighting of plants.

(UN) Happy growing, Bernhard.

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Mittwoch, 18. Mai 2016, 17:51

Thanks to you two ever :-D

So the "greenhouse" is already quite you. Consists of aluminium and glass panels. could actually be that I not open it... Usually 1 to 2 hours a day. I think humidity I can exclude as my Titanum has so far always from 70 to 90%.

To the LEDs. (465nm-470nm) and ca 150 Red LEDs (620nm 625nm) which means that about 60 blue LEDs are :icon_confused: the light is just above violet. Use these lamps as well as for other plants in the winter and am absolutely delighted, so I think it could be any simple "Sunburn" because real power these things have and even dangerously close to the plants were the lamp.

Now I'm even more on airing for the first try just :icon_coolnew:

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Mittwoch, 18. Mai 2016, 20:47

My first thought was also sunburn, because precisely the sheet at the location looks at my Titan, where he grew against the fluorescent tube and thus was too much light.

Greeting
Andreas

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Mittwoch, 18. Mai 2016, 21:42

Hello

I would also tap the combustion, and happened with me at plants that were growing too close to the lamp.

I now also last winter my 400W/250W MH or ND lighting lamps to LED converted, am absolutely thrilled as Marco.
The tuber growth has been absolutely brilliant with me, had many tubers in which are unpopular exclusively under the LED lamp.
The leaves also not better off are not as beautiful as looked at sunlight but under the MH lamps. Us counts something under the ground grows ;) , in the winter, the sheet quality is also not so important me.

If someone on LED lighting would get, I highly recommend that

http://www.eBay.de/ITM/reflector-COB-200...=item2a34322a9e
http://www.eBay.de/ITM/dimmable-300W-led...=item27e9f9c9fa

with both, I light area approx. 4-5qm.

VG
Ronny

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Mittwoch, 18. Mai 2016, 22:59

Hello Ronny and Andreas,.

I may not quite believing combustion or exposure damage.
First is Lux entstehendie damage mainly at the leaf tips and edges and the branching point, where the petiole into the leaf segments, but not on the leaf blade 1500-2000 not very much and why?
This is probably something other than yours, Andreas, where a leaf against a fluorescent tube is grown (which has also a considerable temperature).

Exposure and LEDs could be made on possibly even thread a...
Andreas, you get something like this, recommends the Ronny at Allibaba (or what was that called again?)?

Happy growing, Bernhard.

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Donnerstag, 19. Mai 2016, 06:45

Hi Bernard,.

I've done now only a 30 second search, but I think so. http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catI...t=300W+grow+led

The first look but similar.

Greetings of Andreas

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Donnerstag, 19. Mai 2016, 18:32

So @ Bernhard the plant the LED had pasted already ca 1-2 days when I was on vacation... I measured today... Although not really can believe it but the luxmeter the SMD LED says 9200 Lux directly. I think this is pretty heavy on 12h light per day. May have damage taken as even the 'arms'. :icon_confused:

What me just irritated is that Brown places are pretty flexible and not crumble like in classic sunburn/drying out...

Well as this is again? Should the 2nd drive be 1.5 2 times as large as the old one? So the 1 or 2 blade was so far were about 9 months in average, then came a new drive and the old leaf wilted evenly yellow brown. The new leaves were larger than the old but always a good piece.

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Donnerstag, 19. Mai 2016, 22:47

Hello Nokkie,

OK, that explains the damage possibly LEDs are not as warm, but that already give off some heat. then the actual radiation comes to the heat...

The 9200 Lux can also vote, because the exposure decreases with the Quardrat of of distance from the light source...

What I understand but still not really is that you write, that this happens repeatedly, always with a new leaf shoots; also you can see in the background a second titanum has the even brown leaf tips - you were not all right close to the LEDs, or?

I would write off the calcium deficiency not yet linked...

Happy growing, Bernhard.

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Freitag, 20. Mai 2016, 17:20

Hi Bernard,.

Yes, this is so that the two Titanum near differed to the lamp... But ca 3 cm accounted for because they both grew at the same time and not too slow :D

And yes it is the 2nd pair now that these signs shows... It may be how much lux for a Titanum? I put the lamp in the height.

I have got a 'larger' Titanum (75 cm high hand) at the window and must determine that these things get better... Juicy green, beautiful defilement, no Brown, super rooted etc. Maybe the good ones want to be not simply locked up :D

I will not write off the calcium deficiency, I have today started to counteract the.

Many thanks to all Schonmal:icon_gott:

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Freitag, 20. Mai 2016, 19:10

So 9200 Lux can be actually not too much.
Our konjacs in the garden in the summer after all cope with up to 80,000 lux. And tropical houseplants are grown in greenhouses in loose 20-40 thousand Lux.
A calcium deficiency seems even more likely to me

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