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Hi Bjarne.

the images at the aroid.org
http://www.aroid.org/genera/speciespage...pecies=Ankarana and
Alan Galloway
http://www4.ncsu.edu/~alan/plants/aroids...allus/ankarana/ here
had I always assumed that makes any Cormels ankarana;
so I had mainly the image of the second bulb, where probably a breach of "dull" to see a Cormel is, so my doubts as to whether this is ankarana.
But the list
Amorphophallus list dormancy/soil / substrate / storage conditions / rest time post #4
makes ankarana Cormels...
And also my ankarana made a small Cormel last year... index.php? page = attachment & attachmentID = 2772

What makes me still wonder, is the form of tubers.
Ankarana is very shallow tubers; see aroid.org and Allan Galloway, and my pictures: index.php? page = attachment & attachmentID = 2773 index.php? page = attachment & attachmentID = 2774

Whether the offered also have the apparently typical flat form, you can not really judge images recorded by top.

What I see in contrast to my bulb is the pink bud; I know that more of konjac or bulbifer - my ankarana drives out always more or less colorless...
Also I could the shoots of several buds never see on my bulb, what might be but it is still not so great.
My tuber is also always rather colorless and turns green when the storage without substrate; the tubers in the pictures with Alan and the aroid.org are but rather Brown. at Alan with a greenish tint, which speaks for storage without substrate.

Perhaps, the provider can call Yes its sources of supply on request.

Someone from the Forum can otherwise ankarana who share his observations and assessments?

Happy posting, Bernhard.

Hello

Offshoot tubers makes my too, just like when friends, small round balls.
I haven't seen offshoot arms, arms are been disconnected but when the 2 images on ebay.
The offshoot tubers arise from the tissues of the old Corm, like some other species, consimilis, variabilis, natolli...
also the shape of mine is rather flat

VG
Ronny

Hello Ronny,.

OK, then I think that the small Cormel where my mother bulb is soldered, where you verkorkte the round place looks.

With hood Walcott buds color casts out yours?

VG, Bernhard.

P.S.: I have asked the provider of ebay to make images of the sheet and call the origin of the mother tuber...

If you don't know the page

http://www.univie.AC.at/HBV/search.php

find the top enter Amorphophallus, the search query is not applied at the link

very nice pictures of the satisfying

Hi Bjarne.

He texted me also; Unfortunately, no longer does he know the name of the provider and has no pictures of the blade or the blade shaft.
He even wrote me that the plant has not yet has flourished, so that he could confirm the nature so far does not have a flower.

It is of course difficult - if you buy a kind under a name, one can only even assume that the species name is.

It may also be that the variability in ankarana (tuberous form, buds color when the kick etc.) is so great, that the offered bulb is included.
I know only my genotype and the pictures from the net.

When offered the tuber however makes breeding arms what Ronny nor I have observed, there could be a new kind.

I demand possibly again over the aroid-L...

VG, Bernhard.

I would always first carefully. A new provider with 0 valuations which are logged on relatively rare tubers, which such as A. konjac to me (how did he then actually at that time bought on ebay?) sold before 10 days on ebay look.

If you even look at its entire offers http://www.ebay.de/sch/juergiwuergi2/m.html?_trksid=p3692, I see a certain similarity of his entire tubers.

On the other hand, to invest EUR 15, not pushing one Yes ruin, and in the worst case, you've got a 220 g Konjac tuber.


I personally would skip this offer.

Greeting
Andreas

Hello of Andreas,

We were all even younger - maybe he was still too young for an i Bah account years ago 6-7...

VG, Bernhard.

So, I would be cautious.

I have even A. ankarana and me, the tuber is also no side arms and the bulb is very flat (figs. 1 and 2).
In Figure 3, the recording of the tuber offered on eBay have brightened something in order better to assess it.
Since an aborted/cut off arm is m.E. in the upper part.

So I tend more to that it is not A. ankarana.

Many greetings
Ortwin

Hi, I want to insinuate anyone evil,
But the brighter image can recognize it now more clearly for me that looks pretty damn strong Konjac.
It seems however year a bit small for 6-7 as Konjac.
Best regards
Matthias

you did well my also picked out times, does it look quite that our 3 tubers look relatively the same.

The provider has stopped the deals because they contained errors.
He had even asked me whether he should take her out, but I wrote him that he must decide that yourself.
Maybe has tipped the scales that his tubers apparently make breeding arms; I had written him, of ankarana not known that me is and Ronny has expressed itself in the direction.
I sent the link him to the Forum - well possible that the discussion here has moved him to terminate the deals...
After now Ortwin and Ronny have sent pictures of typical flat tubers, not ankarana were probably...

Happy growing, Bernhard.

Tubers fans,

the provider wrote to me yet that he has viewed after further critical questions about the ankarana, its surely are not. So he took it out...

Struck me at the time of his purchase of the mother bulbs still a, that exactly 6-7 years ago tons of konjac as titanum, gigas, prainii, care... and many as ankarana by a single rogue vendor sold...

I think the current offer for a late consequence of it.

(UN) Happy bidding, Bernhard.

Has that someone randomly then followed and documented? It would be interesting to know what species this rogue provider has sold. Then you know what types you have to be more careful.


Because those who bought at that time of course for now assume that they have also the kind that they have bought.

Greeting
Andreas

Hello of Andreas,

I have documented the reviews of the provider at the time and it emerges that he until Sept 2008 only revierii, konjac and offered paeoniifolius (with a picture of prainii, "on loan"), then each additional,
from 11.2008 prainii
from 1.2009 bulbifer
from 1.2009 kachinensis, titanum
After 2.2009, consmilis, ankarana
impressus from 3.2009
from 4.2009 yunnanensis, hernryi
from 5.2010 care, hottae, U.S. silvae and gigas

2010 two Amorpho-friends and I have made test purchases and invariably konjac get; We have been then that the reviews expressed, which by the provider at the time according to recognized...
Alone with the us clearly as konjac decus-silvae, hottae and beccarii he took more than €1000 (you can in his feedback on ebay find) specific titanum, kachinensis. If you then ankarana, etc. still count...

Who are the reviews want to look at, this one can do (from the penultimate page and younger):
http://feedback.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=0 & mPg = 7 & page = 2

Two other Amorpho friends who gather also Epiphyllum and orchids, BTW the purchased species / varieties as wrong declared identified (see neg reviews...)

A few months after 2.2011 (after offer Nr. 290523689995) the provider has set its sales, but until then always still prainii, henryi, kachiensis, impressus, bulbifer, paeoniifolius and ankarana also sold...

In the following years offers of the rare species appeared from time to time, who were clearly konjac; some clearly on the incorrectly declared konjac of the vendor took back.

So much for the...

Beautiful Sunday, Bernhard.

Shocking how cocky, some people want to make money. The damage to the reputable providers is huge, but obviously there's enough people for whom everything is matter.

Thank you for this very interesting documentation.

Best regards, Ralf

Amorphophile,

the provider of the ankarana has stepped forward again today - he has rechechiert again and could remember clearly to the provider as a seller of 'ankarana' referred to in the post #16...

Particularly piquant or schäg on the whole affair was, by the way, that the provider of the "rare" species at that time many of the konjac (600! in two winters...) purchased from one of our Forum members had...

So, even if it is difficult - your konjac Cormels composted rather, before she turned to i-Bah reappear...

(UN) Happy composting, Bernhard.