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Samstag, 5. März 2016, 14:24

Pseudohydrosme gabunensis

Hello

What does the Pseudohydrosme gabunensis (to little iron - too much nitrogen?) for a deficiency?

I hold them for two years and she had been this shoot last year. The Earth is normal unit Earth as all my other Amorphophallus. Fertilize I do with banana fertilizer, more reserved, maximum once a month. It is currently in the winter garden at about 20 ° (it is not the temperature, summer was the previous shoots and because temperatures were much higher).
Because it is here but a rare plant, I not big wants to experiment with, so how I otherwise like to do it.

What do you mean what should change so that the blade is correctly Green?

Many greetings
Ortwin
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Samstag, 5. März 2016, 14:59

Hello
Chlorotisch looks like the leaf, so iron deficiency, which however does not match with the satisfying, very humid rainforest areas,.
According to Bogner of the bot. Garden Munich is fertilized at each watering, I couldn't figure out just yet in which concentration.
There is a reference in net but an article by Hetterscheid and I'm too stupid to link with the IPad to Bogner.leider. Is easy to find but under the name of art.
I've sent to my source in the Bot.Garten but still a request, maybe we know more. It can hurt never Dodge on Citrusdünger, which is also very nutritious and contains iron also neat. He never hurts. According to Bogner, the substrate should be a year late. Be renewed every 2 years.
Best regards Matthias

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Samstag, 5. März 2016, 15:08

I forgot, it may be well to hard substrate.

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Samstag, 5. März 2016, 15:51

Hi Matthew,

Schonmal thank you.

The substrate is not too hard. It's very loose and due to a slight addition of peat it tends more towards sour.

Greeting
Ortwin

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Sonntag, 6. März 2016, 08:22

thats a good indication with the to calcareous substrate ever – it's sure to iron deficiency.

Now the question is why iron deficiency - 2 ways - either available to little iron (may well be if you düngst so little) - but then when the fertilizer on the iron content, make sure (my favorite would be Hakaphos soft special)

or option 2 - the pH value is too high - trace elements are better at low pH values available (5.5-6 best) - If you now have 7 what is the plant itself still doesn't matter - but iron is easily available.
In the case of can - it never hurt in a "normal" concentration - work with a sulfur-containing fertilizers and the excess lime would be bound by the sulphur and then thus lowers the pH value.
And a slight sulfur fertilization anyway not... ;-) harm plant
The lime content in the substrate can change over the time - that depends then on your water - if this is now quite 'hard' - then can expect in any case, that even a peaty/acid substrate is also limy after half a year - year...

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Sonntag, 6. März 2016, 09:34


And a slight sulfur fertilization anyway not... ;-) harm plant



Hello and a beautiful Sunday
What sulphur fertilizer can you recommend? We have calcareous water here over the masses and if in the summer time the rain barrel is empty as a fertilizer would already help
Best regards Matthias

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Sonntag, 6. März 2016, 10:51

Hi Martin,

Thanks for the Info;

now look, I have repotted the plant also to see whether the tuber and roots are still intact. Fortunately, both is the case.
I just mixed with the new substrate more peat, so that it is slightly acidic.

I would join the question of Matthias the question which sulphur fertilizer promoting. After a search on the Internet, came for this probably Piasan 28 in question; but I know no source.

@ Matthias: me the result of the botanical would very interested in Garden and above all, maintain the plants as the botanist there (eg., if there more very wet substrate is used or whether the plant can withstand also dammed-up water - or rather dry substrate?). There she undergoes a rest period?

Many greetings
Ortwin

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Sonntag, 6. März 2016, 12:49

Hmmm - after a short search on this Piasan 28 I'd want to take that - that is just a pure nitrogen fertilizer.

What's the sulfur itself - we (Austria) you get at the pharmacy "Sulphur flower" - that would be quite simple when you need only sulfur. I have never even used - but I would think if you be not wrong with 0.02% that tried knows (i.e. 2 g 10 l)

But if you are looking for a finished product like me - then there's only a meaningful company: Peters Excel

https://ICL-SF.com/de/products/specialty...tion-phlow-335/
https://ICL-SF.com/de/explore/baumschule...Xcel-acidifier/

I don't know the first even still - which is apparently new - but the 2nd is an "old hand" - of which there is also 1-3 Varaianten - with more nitrogen in it - or just more potash (where I would tend to in the link)

There's only the problem with procurement - the gamble certainly not in 'Small packs' - but that's packed in 15 kg bags anyway - there I think I can find themselves safe 2-5 people, you tell then the.
Because one have to look then to the nursery of the confidence that you order one as a bag.
But is quite expensive - it costs don't know more exactly in purchasing about 40-50 euro - net...

That would be the only useful fertilizer at the problem in my humble opinion.
If Peters Professional are the subject who are interested in - just the HP of which see through - the best fertilizer that there ;-)

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Sonntag, 6. März 2016, 13:03

BTW - I have just found:

http://www.effizientduengen.de/files/schwefel.php

could also a sulphur deficiency in your Pseudohydrosme be - if you look at the picture...

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Sonntag, 6. März 2016, 13:31

Peters Professional

Hi Martin,
Could you be not the familiar nursery?
I'd take so a bag and would then of course be distributed.
However, at the end of the month can only need ego because we just rebuilt and therefore the appropriate storage space is not there now.
Sunday best, regards Matthias

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Montag, 7. März 2016, 07:26

fine by me, that should be no problem. -Only problem - the shipping.

-because I'm from Austria that is probably 20 euros or so cost (Yes 15 kg are)
-I'm not sure if you can just send fertilizer / may - because it a quasi 'dangerous substance' is that is fire-promoting. With us you need a fire extinguisher (which is suitable for the) in the car if I is theory - of course only when a control fertilizer with the take home car - important ;-)

I will ask at the post office as the see with the fertilizer - because if a box is packed, so nobody sees what is in it and then look even further...

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Montag, 7. März 2016, 14:11

I bought today an iron fertilizer (5%), which contains sulphur (3%).

I now wonder whether an effect occurs.
If so, you will not know existed which lack (iron or sulfur deficiency), but if the result was positive, that wouldn't matter.

For your information, ever-thank you.

Many greetings
Ortwin

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Montag, 7. März 2016, 16:08

Hi Ortwin,.

I think not; more on sulfur deficiency the symptoms fit already quite well to iron deficiency, in particular, that the finer leaf veins are still green.

A foliar application would be faster than the fertilization over the GAL water helps. possibly something is on your iron fertilizer.

See also: http://www.hortipendium.de/Blattd%C3%BCngung
https://www.agrar.BASF.de/agroportal/de/... Fetrilon_13.PDF

By the way, a stable Chelation as Fetrilon (EDTA) is Sequestren (EDDHA):
http://www3.Syngenta.com/country/de/de/P...information.PDF

In the long term the substrate or the pH-value in combination with the right fertilizer will be important.

Incidentally, I remember my Anchomanes I've unfortunately lost, always very quickly developed the same symptoms.

Best of luck,
Bernhard.

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Montag, 7. März 2016, 16:52

Sequestren

Hi Richard, you've got a source for Sequestren, I found only one on the fast and which requires 49.90 for a kilo, the manure is so extremely efficient, the price puts into perspective.
I don't know but if the price is reasonable?
Best regards Matthias

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Montag, 7. März 2016, 16:58

Hi Ortwin, to answer the question, substrate
@ Matthias: me the result of the botanical would very interested in Garden and above all, maintain the plants as the botanist there (eg., if there more very wet substrate is used or whether the plant also waterlogging vertlrägt - or rather dry substrate?). There she undergoes a rest period?

A pre-information notice: very wet wet wet (after pouring at high temperatures) but never Queuing. No drying out.
There's more info as soon as I know more.
Best regards Matthias

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Montag, 7. März 2016, 18:06

Hi Matthew,

It is also somewhat less expensive and then some more N and K here seems to be:
http://www.eBay.de/ITM/Sequestrene-NK-13... 1kAAOSwG-1Wumkw

slightly more expensive, but only 240 g
https://www.adlershop.ch/p33452/sequestr...en-duenger-240g

If rather there the BayWa's around the corner of Raiffeisen or in Bavaria, you could ask there once.
In specialist shops for nurseries, there would have actually also the speciality fertilizers.

The price of €50 / kg is probably OK; I don't think that you get cheaper.
Maybe you can ask here:
http://www.profiflor.de/index.htm
http://www.profiflor.de/Literatur/betrie...dingung.htm#AGB

What currently slightly irritates me, is the fact that one finds no offers by google...
I know the fertilizer for a long time...

When you want something more...
http://www.Gaertner-Ko.de/fileadmin/temp...uengemittel.PDF
http://www.gem-Bedarf.de/katalog/02-02.PDF

Maybe the yellow pages give Yes, where there's only one person in Munich garden supplies or where gardeners meet its needs or helps aunt google yet?
https://www.Google.de/search?q=Gartenbau...RF+M%C3%BCnchen
http://www.BGG-eg.de/index.php?id=14729

So, now I'm giving up the search - my small supply of Sequestren is sufficient for me awhile... ;-)

Happy growing, Bernhard.

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Montag, 7. März 2016, 18:40

Hi Bernard,.
Baywa we got around the corner, I thank you for the effort, I was probably somewhat impatiently what the search. I'm yet to those who would rather go into a store, I know medieval, but I just prefer red before I puffing and sweating the postman at the door with the words: quote "fuck why you buy nothing in business, EBay I have to wear more than 200 fuck every days box." "- sign!," originally posted at the end.
The same goes even so! Quote: "Hey Alter my back breaks of your shit... (see another quote) - sign!
The package was only 10kg!
Winking and yet best regards Matthias

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Montag, 7. März 2016, 19:08

...Hmmmmm, from the words of the carriers probably speaks the much described Bavarian openness...

I had such statements have never been here in Lower Saxony - but the people North of the Danube are considered with you there below I also suppose something brittle and cold... - so then everything fits... :icon_winkgrin:

So on to the chat in BayWa...

Happy talking, Bernhard.

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Mittwoch, 9. März 2016, 11:13

Fe-Dünger - Details zu Fe-Dünger in Chelatform....

Fe-Mangelgeplagte,

Here are some information about the two bekannsteten Fe fertilizers where Fe in Chealten is bound.

index.php? page = attachment & attachmentID = 2739 index.php? page = attachment & attachmentID = 2740 index.php? page = attachment & attachmentID = 2741

The main difference is that fe-EDDHA (Sequestren 138, Basafer® plus) is more stable and therefore at high pH values (high lime content of the substrate / pouring water) supply in the longer term better guarantee.
As Fe-EDDHA is strongly reddish brown and leaves color residue, is discouraged by the foliar application and for more recommended Fe-EDTA; I would still try it in low Konzetrationen or simply try out a part of a leaf...

Happy spraying, Bernhard.

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Donnerstag, 21. April 2016, 12:49

Hi Ortwin,.

have you tried the iron leaf fertilization?

Curious, Bernhard.

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