Sie sind nicht angemeldet.

Lieber Besucher, herzlich willkommen bei: Amorphophallus-Forum.de. Falls dies Ihr erster Besuch auf dieser Seite ist, lesen Sie sich bitte die Hilfe durch. Dort wird Ihnen die Bedienung dieser Seite näher erläutert. Darüber hinaus sollten Sie sich registrieren, um alle Funktionen dieser Seite nutzen zu können. Benutzen Sie das Registrierungsformular, um sich zu registrieren oder informieren Sie sich ausführlich über den Registrierungsvorgang. Falls Sie sich bereits zu einem früheren Zeitpunkt registriert haben, können Sie sich hier anmelden.

1

Mittwoch, 12. August 2015, 15:38

Amorphophallus koratensis vs. paeoniifolius

It offered regularly by various sources of paeoniifolius seeds. Here in the Forum I have my read I often, that many of them have proven koratensis. I now have seedlings from different QWuellen, which are about 4 weeks old and quite similar at first glance.

Can anyone tell me how the two species as seedling differ? Or must I wait longer to keep apart the?

Thank you in advance.

Greeting
Andreas

2

Donnerstag, 13. August 2015, 07:12

Hi andi,.

This is a question that also already has... has bothered me - I had a Yes ever paeoniifolius from a secure source. (which had a nice smooth stem) - which was but me over jordan - now I got studded back different but somehow which get - are who most Sanders.
by ronny here in the forum I got me this year times koratensis control 2 leave - which now are also very studded most common and are also very different in colour...

now I have pictures of paeoniifolius on the facebook-amorpho page seen recently where an an extreme relief-Sanders had - from here that can not the difference be - so whether smooth or rough surface...

but so how I have remembered the paeoniifolius has not reproduces via Rhizome and has only one tribe made - and the 2 koratensis I make right now several tribes - and that from start-so I guess, that difference which then must - be because of the stains and the NAP made Yes really extremely similar to are the two types.

This is roughly estimated/advised as seedling virtually indistinguishable - only from the 2 - 3 period...

Ortwin

Fortgeschrittener

Beiträge: 282

Wohnort: Gelnhausen

  • Nachricht senden

3

Donnerstag, 13. August 2015, 12:19

Hello of Andreas,

I had bought me also once "paeonifolius" on eBay. I had doubts that it was really paeonifolius. After a request from aroid-L turned out, that it is probably koratensis. Both types are hardly to distinguish seedling. Koratensis forms but the more Varation on different Petiolen. I even have some from almost black to brown-red to completely green.

There is already a secure difference. Kept it completely dry the tubers during the dormant period and the tubers dry up, so it's probably koratensis (these must be stored slightly moist). All tubers in the humid Sphagnum well through the dormant period came with me, while all (really all without exception!) dry stored tubers are dried up.

I've unzip shot until the flowering some plants with beautiful Petiolen next to kultivieren. Then you know exactly what it is.
This will take but a few years.


Greeting
Ortwin

4

Montag, 17. August 2015, 11:58

Hello Lord.Maso,

paeoniifolius is quite variable as regards the roughness and the drawing of the part of the sheet.

The smooth clones are, so far as I know the cultivated, which are grown as a tuber vegetable in Asia and have been selected mainly on low oxalate content.

I had pulled myself once paeonifolius one from seed, I had bought on ebay, but the plant is eingegagen, me after she was already more than small.
Image from October 2010
R.I.P.

A few months ago a kambotschanischer student bought me two tuber from his Heimtdorf, who is also primary Cormels or-ausläufer.


The larger the tuber has made now a leaf ca 1.6 m and I hope that the tuber is again as large as it was before transplanting...
The petiole is smooth...


Happy growing, Bernhard.

5

Montag, 17. August 2015, 15:09

Thank you for your comments... bernhard

But how to recognize you now really the difference between koratensis and paeoniifolius?

6

Montag, 17. August 2015, 15:27

Hello Lord.Maso,

on the leaf or petiole the distinction seems difficult, if probably I suspect, that the bright spots on the petiole at koratensis are more elongated and paeoniifolius this reddish brown coloring is not so common.

Compare images in: paeonifolius seeds for i-Bah

Then the difference in storage - at paeoniifolius remains which usually leads to the desiccation of the tubers at foratensis my opinion absolutely dry storage (without substrate) to new shoots.

Otherwise, the patience proposed by Ortwin remains up to the flower...

Happy growing, Bernhard.

7

Montag, 17. August 2015, 21:28

Thank you all for the info. Then I must have still patience.

Greeting
Andreas

8

Donnerstag, 15. Oktober 2015, 22:06

To have more plants from reliable source, purchase pond me at Bjorn by rareplants A. paeoniifolius both A. koratensis seeds. Thus I comparators then times as a reference. Should these seeds is typical look, I can sure today say that all my previous paeonis, from at least 3 sources are no koratensis. The difference in size of the seeds is already clear and if they are side by side, also the shape is quite different.

But see for yourself.

Greeting
Andreas
»AGM_de« hat folgende Bilder angehängt:
  • A_koratensis.jpg
  • A_paeoni.jpg

9

Donnerstag, 15. Oktober 2015, 22:33

Hello of Andreas,

That would be super interesting koratensis like then the seedlings will look.
My seeds then looked like on the right picture.

Comes across as only on the images or the seeds no longer so good look like?

VG
Ronny

10

Freitag, 16. Oktober 2015, 10:03

In the photos, the light is not optimal. Actually, the two types of seeds differ color much more than you can see on the picture. And they look also not soo bad.

I find that saw many paeoniifolius seeds, which I had not particularly well looked germinated but without any problems. Even once until I have sown a bag seeds, which I had forgotten, and which were dry, after several months and they still germinated.

There seems to be species, whose seed can tolerate drought well in the genus of Amorphophallus.

Greeting
Andreas

11

Freitag, 16. Oktober 2015, 10:11

Hello of Andreas,

Here the pictures of the paeoniifoius which I bought in March 2012 Squeeky Buffalo (unfortunately without scale)

index.php? page = attachment & attachmentID = 2603 index.php? page = attachment & attachmentID = 2604

So, look for me more after your koratensis Bjorn, but for the notes, which were rechechiert in other place that should be probably yes paeoniifolius...

If you find the time, images of seedlings and the further development of plant loading on all cases once up here - it is perhaps a more revealing comparison.

VG, Bernhard

12

Freitag, 16. Oktober 2015, 10:20

Bernhard, I'm doing this. I'm me also used to, all purchased tubers and seeds with scale (thank you IKEA :D ) to photograph. And if I find the time and several Petiolen in the course of the summer.

Greeting
Andreas

Ähnliche Themen

Übersetzen:

  Deutsch  Englisch  Dänisch  Spanisch  Persisch  Französisch  Kroatisch  Italienisch  Japanisch  Niederländisch  Polnisch  Russisch  Schwedisch  Türkisch 

Translation powered by Bing Translation

Sie sind nicht angemeldet. | Anmelden | Registrieren | Passwort vergessen ?