Amorphophallus dactylifer variegata?

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Ortwin

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Sonntag, 12. Juli 2015, 09:46

Amorphophallus dactylifer variegata?

Hello

dactylifer in a seedling of A. a slight variegation of the leaflets, which last year was still not there (fig. 1) or was so low, is evident at the mother plant this year that she didn't notice. The variegation in the striking appeared close to the mother plant side shoots (Figure2).

It is here, a virus disease of the plant itself or a "real variegation", which continually occurs
such as E.g. A. konjac Shattered Glass?
Or is it something else?

What do you mean?

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Sonntag, 12. Juli 2015, 10:34

Have examined me on spider mites? Looked something like the leaves of my avocado, when she was attacked.

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Andreas

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Ortwin

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Sonntag, 12. Juli 2015, 12:12

The plant has no pests; She didn't even during the leaf training. I can exclude pests.

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Ortwin

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Sonntag, 12. Juli 2015, 12:24

Hi Ortwin,.

at the reflections I didn't first recognize that what you probably mean.
I know vaguely bright, whitish spots and small whitish spots, possibly slightly larger whitish areas.

I had similar one-off spots, which I could place two years ago once a Psedodracontium. The following year they were no longer there, which is why I then; considered that some physilogische error which led to necrosis, I could not find pests.

The patch Server dactylifer but different.
You have to probably wait as it evolved.
I couldn't tell whether that is pathogenic, physiological or genetic...

Did you take small two leaf cuttings? And if so, the leaf pieces were also this patch?

Happy growing, Bernhard.

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Sonntag, 12. Juli 2015, 12:36

Hi Bernard,.

Yes I have taken leaf cuttings from the leaves, which had the most white spots.
It has wondered just, that the side shoots next to the mother plant had also these white patches.
You need to Yes somehow with "over"have gone.
If the mother plant had only these spots, I would have responded No.

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Ortwin

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Mr. Titanum

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Sonntag, 12. Juli 2015, 13:16

Hi Ortwin,.

then I press the thumb for the leaf cuttings :icon_thumbs1:

Once I sent the link to your request to the aroid-L - maybe someone of real experts know Yes what there is to see...

Happy waiting, Bernhard.

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Sonntag, 12. Juli 2015, 18:36

Hi Ortwin,.

I think that would be also a deficiency in question. Probably a magnesium deficiency. Excessive nitrogen gifts can prevent the magnesium intake of plants and thus indirectly lead to a magnesium deficiency.

If you made leaf cuttings, and the new plants show no white coloration of the leaves in new Earth, that would be an indication for a deficiency of old plants.

I am curious.

Best regards from Munich

Thorsten

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Ortwin

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Montag, 13. Juli 2015, 10:30

Hi Bernard, Hi Thorsten,

@Bernhard: I'm curious about what the experts say.

@Thorsten: magnesium deficiency could be possible; but otherwise, there is no evidence. The leaves are intact as a whole (I.e. no dried edges, yellow discoloration)

I hope that the leaf cuttings (the leaflets are just very small) works out, then we will see the new plants if the variegation receives or not.

I have a close-up again adds - vlt. does it show that Yes, better.

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Montag, 13. Juli 2015, 11:30

Hi Ortwin,.

the image is much better :icon_thumbs1:

As this looks, I would rule out lack of nutrients and pathogens (pests, virus) - that much like chlorophyll defects in defined sectors and layers from, so I think probably a genetic chimera right.

Whether it resurfaces at the leaf cuttings, but very much will depend, whether the modified cells in the regeneration or When the Adventivsprossen are involved.
It is exciting to all cases...

If information about the aroid-L, I will report back...

Happy waiting, Bernhard.

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Donnerstag, 16. Juli 2015, 06:40

Hi Ortwin,.

Thank you for the good photo. I agree with Bernhard and now also would want to exclude a deficiency.

It is exciting...

Best regards

Thorsten

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Sonntag, 19. Juli 2015, 18:27

Hi Ortwin,.

the tuber was injured or had rotted? For me, a decus-silvae has also just opened your hand and has a variegation in the whole sheet.
This was a large tuber with large sheet last year, had made only a measly tuber,
that has even rotted and the last remnant is now driven out.

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Ronny

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Ortwin

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Sonntag, 19. Juli 2015, 20:17

Hello Ronny,.

It's a two-year seedling who grew very well. the tuber was when shooting entirely in order. Last year no variegation was noticed.

The variegation is instead reinforced when the 4 side shoots, newly formed this year (it's me also new that A. dactylifer forms at all side shoots and proliferate so lets - I thought that goes only on leaf cuttings).

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Ortwin

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ronnyede

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Sonntag, 19. Juli 2015, 20:29

A. dactylifer is Yes the entire surface from Ablegerkollen by the some also cast out, like you now.
Look the bigger tuberous aufi's Alan page or aroid.org, as you can see it nicely.
At my huge tuber, when I got that at that time, some are cancelled, most of which are expelled.

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Ronny

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Montag, 20. Juli 2015, 07:21

Hello Ronny,.

Thanks for the info.
I have a large A. dactylifer and it has never formed spin-off. Therefore, I have come to this conclusion.
I'm curious about how the leaf cuttings, whether or not they take the variegation.

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Ortwin

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Samstag, 25. Juli 2015, 11:20

Hi Ortwin,.

None on my request has responded in the aroid-L so that you even just have to grow it there... interesting in any case.

Happy growing, Bernhard.

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Ortwin

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Samstag, 25. Juli 2015, 12:22

Hi Bernard,.

Thank you for your enquiry of the aroid-l; I'll see what it is.
If something new I'll report here.

Greeting
Ortwin

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Sonntag, 3. Juli 2016, 14:52

Hello

as I have written above, I've done leaf cuttings to see whether the variegation is given.
After the first young plants are now driven I can say that the variegation is also on the new plants. The young plants look the same as the mother plant.

I have to say however that the variegation (I'd rather say there are small white spots) is no improvement. In green plants like me personally much better.

VG
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Mittwoch, 6. März 2019, 16:45

Hello
I wanted to show the further development of the panasoning on a sheet.
She is apparently very stable.
However, it does not look nice; Vlt. interesting. I like the pure leaves much better.
The plant also grows very slowly. In nature, she is unlikely to have a chance of survival.

Vg
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Mittwoch, 6. März 2019, 17:12

Hi Ortwin,.

interesting indeed! and I must admit that it always pleases me ;-)

Actually still alive the plants from leaf cuttings of the variegated mother plant and is the feature which even so pronounced and stable?

Happy growing, Bernhard.