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Samstag, 27. September 2014, 10:36

Seramis als Subtrat für schwierige Arten ( titanum, gigas, decus-silvae etc.)

Amorphophile,

already much has been written about substrates here in the Forum, especially when it comes to the difficult ideas large species from the Indonesian region.

At i-Bah precisely a member offers 4 titanum, whose Knollen look really top notch.

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I have not commanded since I titanum and my substrate (unit Earth (2/3 white peat 1/3 ton), perlite and Holzkohlengries (1:1:1)) very fine come, but I wrote to the provider, as the exceptionally good quality of tubers has so impressed me, and developed a very interesting correspondence.

The most important is the experience, has the bounty323 with Seramis as substrate gemnacht - with consent from bounty323 I'm guessing now my Guttenberg keyboard further (with the three keys: CTRL, c, v)...:icon_winkgrin:

Originally posted at the beginning (in extracts):
"Hi mr.titanum,"

Oh, and even a small addendum, after I attended was in the break in your forum and I've seen that A.gigas and other 'difficult - rot-vulnerable' species probably make some to create. How about the pictures in annex... Yes, different titanum in reinem(!) Seramis;)

May be that I like as a laboratory biologist to very controlled conditions, but I think my tuberous prove me right. Seramis has as small an insider tip for hewittii, gigas, decus-silvae and titanum in room culture turns out to be. All I'm saying...;)

Best regards!

P.S., where one thing I tell still: on it fertilizer Seramis goes on (humus-free). The plants are pushing out brighter than for example in the mix of the BG Bonn and green only in the weeks with Wuxal completely after (see the sheet of a 3-week-old sheet - the further away the tissue of the conductive vessels, it is the brighter). However, in addition to this 'disadvantage' I've seen a so healthy and large roots and tubers system in any substrate. As I said, my bulbs and a 0% decay rate give me right...

-bounty323 "

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"Hi mr.titanum,"

Hi Mary,

I have split the message well in two, otherwise not enough space;)
...
Your substrate mixture looks familiar to me. Think I've seen that years ago on aroid.org. It seems to work well, doesn't it?

And Yes, if you want to you can tell others by the Seramis at Amorpho, also works with the images. Always beautiful, if this can help, that the plants are less susceptible to rot.

It has begun times Seramis additive with me, because years ago Perlite/Vermiculite as water-permeable addition went out and I only Seramis in the garden standing around me had. That worked fine in combination with standard soil. From then on, I have also started my dormant tubers of the damp substrate rather than in pure Seramis store (again, keyword controlled conditions). So I could store it damp and every now and then look to see whether they drive, without having to worry that any pathogenic active and/or some of the substrate eradicates the tubers (map).

Due to a high load of work I missed then, that once two tubers full most drive were. No more interfere and cancel any whole roots, I've left them in Seramis then and was very pleasantly surprised by the result. Basically I use normal pots/jugs, which I fine gauze (keyword mosquito nets for the window or similar) lay out and then fill with Seramis. The gauze serves simply as a barrier, that trickles down the granules do not through the water extraction holes.

-bounty323 "
"Hi mr.titanum,"

I pour more penetrating, so do not accumulate saltscan and excess are washed out. So I can also check that the whole substrate is fully saturated with water or the fertilizer solution. My knowledge also three layer clay minerals are 'reverse bake', which can store the pH quite buffers and limited also crystal lattice foreign cations/anions, say store in Seramis probably next to clay. At least our friends say geologists... I trust that even blind ;) a measurement with a pH-meter I could do but in fact. So far seemed the value but not harming the plants.

I fertilize to do during and after the shoot (i.e. in the first 4-8 weeks) at every watering with Wuxal universal fertilizer (1 ml / l), then as in the instructions from Bonn. I explain to me the 'greening' the fact that Seramis is low in nutrients and/or the Amorpho have difficulties with the assimilation into the clay granules. Both would explain the strong root growth as a kind of compensation reaction seems however does not negatively impact on the size of the tubers. Basically you use with young plants also nutrient-poor soil so that they evolve better then – under nutritious conditions -... because you know you sure better than than I. So or so, for me, this principle works class.

-bounty323 "
"Hi mr.titanum,"

After I've switched almost all plants on clay granules, I had virtually no losses and spare me from casting technically much time because of the water storage capacity of Seramis. Than a Übergießen is hardly possible, because water prevents the air permeability and the nature of the inorganic. I think just the last point, plenty of moisture in much air inside the root, seems particularly hewittii and decus-silvae to please. Both types I years ago as seed time received and managed, that nearly 90% of over 2 to 3 years in the substrate mixture of BG Bonn are rotten. In Seramis no tubers are entered into the two species more me.

I'm generally a fan of Seramis nor do I get proven a Commission for all the publicity here, but for me and the (room) culture of the tropical Amorpho has set itself of which the granules. The only major drawback is the price, which is already almost rude. Also other people already seem to be come to inorganic substrates. I don't know personally but still there, but in Indonesia seem to use only fine pumice, unless they hold A.titanum in the pot and keep not planted many gardens. Pumice-technically you have thanks to the whole volcanoes, any cover problems;)

So now the novel is long enough... until the days then!;)

-bounty323 "
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So, the way I see it, Seramis now unimagined growth will experience... ;) I start that equal times...

Happy growing,
Bernhard.

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Samstag, 27. September 2014, 12:15

Hi Bernard,.

Super interesting Schriftverkehr.Die tubers are noticed even as they look absolutely top and yesterday even on a bidding, after long thinking.

The quality of my bulbs in soil but also very good looks (see image A.decus-silvae yesterday).I fertilize only organic, its 2 years now at all mean amorphous.(except konjac and about what is out there).Did this very good experience as far as Earth and growth.No earth that is condensed and to the end is still loose.

With the white shoot tips I just don't quite understand that, I keep my tubers in peat moss and mostly I let stand until the shoot is 10-15 cm tall there splashing around them.
Usually the peat moss is already completely rooted before I plant it in soil, but the shoots look normal, are present at the end also no nutrients.

Love greetings
Ronny
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Samstag, 27. September 2014, 12:21

Hello

for me nothing new:D

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Here a Lambii seedling in Seramis. Simply put the germinated seeds in the Seramis.


Seramis is not so simple but because it is a dead substrate. It buffers so neither the pH value, yet it stores nutrients. You must therefore each pour also fertilize and that regulated fertilizer solution, so that the nutrients ideally can be recorded with a pH. And add as you pour each nutrient salts, salinated quickly the substrate. So you must wash regularly the substrate pH regulated water, so that you can flush out the excess salts.

So it should be ideal for minimum.

I have also a "paeoniifolius" seedling in the Seramis. Grows very well.

I can also confirm his observations that the plants need something longer at the beginning, but you get it.

MfG
Stephan

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Samstag, 27. September 2014, 12:22

Hello Ronny,.

in fact of a nice nodules - diameter?

When the peat moss is fully rooted, I suppose, that you so eintopfst "Bales" as it is?

Happy potting Benrhard.

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Samstag, 27. September 2014, 12:28

4 x 5cm. Yes, I schütel bissel, gently the Moss from and then come to the rest of MOSS in the Earth.

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Samstag, 27. September 2014, 12:30

Hello Stephen,.

You've cultivated gigas and decus-silvae in Seramis or long term unsuccessful attempts were all in normal substrate?

Happy growing, Bernhard.

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Samstag, 27. September 2014, 13:50

Hi Bernard,.

No. So far I've tried only with a lambii seedling and the paeoniifolius seedling. One of my remaining Decus-silvae is already in Earth and the other still in hibernation

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Samstag, 27. September 2014, 19:56

Very interesting post. You write of the high price of Seramis in Indonesia using pumice. Then you should try that sometime here also. Pumice or lava fine there but also, and even quite cheap.

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Samstag, 27. September 2014, 22:25

Hello Stinkmorchel,

I do not know whether it is so porous lava as substrate (-bemischung) would be suitable, but pumice gravel (pumice) is well suited.
Does anyone know of a cheap source of pumice gravel? Available possibly as insulation material/-schüttung?

Happy growing, Bernhard.

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The question has probably already settled, since it gets called by aunt google in many forums quick-mix RAAB TS...

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Samstag, 27. September 2014, 22:54

Hi Bernard,.

do you think the grain a bit too fine at the quick-mix RAAB TS
I have found the right thing (0,3-4mm)?
Ideally Yes a grain would be to reach to the airiness of 3 or better.
Seramis is also rather a coarse substrate

LG
Ronny

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Samstag, 27. September 2014, 22:55

Hello together,
Bernhard, thank you for the info, very interesting!
In BoGa Munich was told me once that she likes to cultivate blight-sensitive Araceae in pure lava. The principle here probably similar to Seramis or expanded clay. From a cactus friend I've however heard that the sharp-edged lava can damage the roots, if you often take the pots in the hand or sent. Pumice should be better, but I'm not sure whether pumice can hold as much water. Would sure times worth a try.

To the water/pH, I must say that above mentioned Wuxal fertilizer solves some problems. Mainly from lack of time, I use almost only still this fertilizer. This summer I had enough rain water, but in the winter and prolonged drought, I use inevitably very hard tap water. The plants stay green but still with Wuxal, deficiency symptoms occur is by far not as fast. Is the contained chelates, poorly available at high pH nutrients can be taken anyway.

A buffer ability of Seramis is new to me, I thought getting the properties of the sound is lost once it is burned. I could but imagine that lime and salts at the surface preferentially collect, where even the water evaporates (if not flushed as described above). Perhaps this delay the adverse effects.

VG Philipp

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Sonntag, 28. September 2014, 09:49

Hello Ronny,.

Yes, the grain is very fine...
At the Googling with "Bims shop" you can find lots of deals with Apotheker-BigBag prices in various grain sizes...

http://www.gartenorchideen-shop.de/substrate/bimskies/
http://www.vulkatec-Onlineshop.de/Dachbe.../530000089.html
http://lavasteine.NET/BIMS/BIMS-2-8-korngroesse.html
http://www.Amazon.de/Bonsaischule-Wenddo...r/DP/B007K0RGM8
http://bonsai-Onlineshop.com/katalog/bimskies-285cde.html

For our needs, the dry bulk from the hardware store is probably the best combination of price and quantity; Maybe you can group < 2 mm somehow light screening.

Happy growing, Bernhard.

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Sonntag, 28. September 2014, 10:14

That sounds really good. I have already löänger been thinking about Seramis, but these outrageously high price I wanted to support. But, I will test the lifter, who called Bernhard. I see no problem with the grain.

Here http://www.ikea.com/de/de/catalog/products/80153254/ has a mesh size of 3 mm. By tilting once and you're done. :D

Greeting
Andreas

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Sonntag, 28. September 2014, 10:53

Hello of Andreas,

do you have the IKEA trash at the desk stand?
In the product description, I do not find the mesh... ;)

Happy sieving, Bernhard.

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Sonntag, 28. September 2014, 12:07

Yes, I have.;)

From the series, there are still einenStiftebecher, I also have, which is then suitable as a small screen.

But after you Yes de matching 4-8 mm sources did you must not necessarily own seven. However, these dry bulk is extremely cheap. The price per kilogram is approximately the kilo price of big bags.

Greeting
Andreas

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Dienstag, 30. September 2014, 16:02

Hello

today I had my paeoniifolius (likely koratensis) seedling in the Seramis pot pot, because he blew almost the pot. The plastic pot was so filled that it would have been long well not anymore:

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So a horny (excuse the term :D ) root growth I've ever seen. Seramis seems to be real the new miracle substrate and thereby I deal very unjustly so. So no pH value adjustment, not fertilize with each pour... No Rinse... and grows veeeery good:D

Seramis is now expensive, that is correct, but the substrate can recovery be used almost indefinitely. It must simply be cleaned after use. Against lime help citric acid and you can rinse the excess salt (distilled) water and it's technically as new. I would only after several days in a citric acid solution create the Seramis, to solve the lime and will rinse and then soak in distilled water and since a while in there, so that also the more soluble salts are dissolved.

I'm still a dormant decus-silvae. She is sunk next in the Seramis.

MfG
Stephan

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Dienstag, 30. September 2014, 16:16

Hello Stephen,.

It looks like only on the photo, or you got a thin layer under the Seramis?

Greeting
Andreas

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Dienstag, 30. September 2014, 16:31

that is deceptive. Clay bubbles are from the hydroponic, so that the small granular Seramis trickles down from the holes :D planting sound, or what the things are right. You could have shown below in also a gauze, but that was me uncomfortable because the roots.

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Dienstag, 30. September 2014, 16:36

Hello Stephen,.

WOW, that's really impressive!

I look forward to your experience with the decus-silvae, who then soon grows with you in Seramis...

Happy growing, Bernhard.

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Dienstag, 30. September 2014, 16:49

What I really can't imagine, how that should then work with the tuber growth.
I get time away from the bulb to the 2-3 times bigger, runs when optimally, but the Seramis Yes doesn't yield in pot or is less.
Is earth so soft, but at Seramis or pumice? In the worst case, since all the pots would burst.

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