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Montag, 17. März 2014, 10:04

Amorphophallus konjac 'Pale Petiole'=Shredded Umbrellas'=´Rosy-Grey Stem´=´dunni ´ ??

Huhu,.

on ebay, http://www.ebay.de/itm/221383507917?var=...984 m1439. l2649, just the tubers of the above varieties are offered.
The party crybt 'Unfortunately she came first under the false name "
A. odoratus (SYN. dunnii) in circulation, therefore it has various
own names in different collections received."


Is this right so far?


Best regards



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Montag, 17. März 2014, 23:40

Hi,.
I'm the provider (so you know where you should throw the stones, if what is wrong... :D ). There was in this regard several discussions, most recently in the FB group was Amorphophallus. The alleged Amorphophallus dunnii/odoratus from Chen Yi from China are likely to be here still be familiar to some, who were busily exchanged and sold until then turns out that it is "only" a variant of konjac. An A. konjac 'pale petiole', I got a little later from England, has proved to be same version even after many years, I see no difference, both small and large plants.
In above discussion, Mr. Malkmus, offered the 'rosy grey stem', has confirmed that it also involves the dunnii by Chen Yi. Only Mr. Galloway hasn't called unfortunately to say, maybe I should ask times direct his 'shredded umbrellas' originally comes from which source. I'm but sure that it involves same variation - should something else be out, ever stones is searching...;)
VG Philipp

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Dienstag, 18. März 2014, 07:10

Hi Philip,.

can you please post the link to the FB discussion? I would like to read a.

I can currently the topic contribute to anything yet, because I only bought this autumn shredded umbrellas from United States and still not exorcise.

It might be helpful if everyone of us who has copies under these names even post photos of it and called the source of the tubers.

Then we had a data base.

Greeting
Andreas

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Dienstag, 18. März 2014, 22:39

have also a variety, originally I was Amorphophallus konjac 'Leo song' however bought soon that it is clear not 'Leo song"what I've got. I didn't care but also because the variety is also very nice, and I still didn't have it.

I call them now as ' shredded umbrellas' after she looks the same, as this type of http://www4.ncsu.edu/~alan/plants/aroids.../konjac/48.html

There are 2 photos


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Mittwoch, 19. März 2014, 00:34

Hello of Andreas,
Here the link:
https://www.Facebook.com/groups/amorphop...18942164802625 /.
Photos coming in the next few days, when I have time.
If your shredded umbrellas develop well, I would be happy about a possible trade. You can see best possible differences when two equal-sized plants grow side by side...

So I handled so far that Seiti. Have viewed before but even more photos from other collectors, to satisfy me. The plants look a bit differently Yes also depending on culture conditions.
VG Philipp

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Mittwoch, 19. März 2014, 23:18

Here my pictures of the "dunnii" / "Pale Petiole". As I said, drawing of stem and leaf shape can vary a bit depending on the plant size and location, you know that even by the normal konjac.
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Samstag, 22. März 2014, 18:35

Hiya,

I would also not with stones you stoned, if the names were wrong;)
There are Yes yet again, that types incorrectly referred to and traded. I probably have, as well as others here from the forum, koratensis get instead of paeoniifolius Indian seed dealer...
In addition to the ´ shredded umbrellas ´ I got also a ´ leo song ´ brought by friends, both tubers look very nice and show their first root tips.

Can you also like the "normal" konjac in full sun?
(read, that it should go, if the plant is during the sheet formation on the sunny site)


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Samstag, 22. März 2014, 22:29

Hi,.
clearly, often it is difficult with the name, I think we all had to make the experience ever.

Yes, that tolerate Sun as the normal konjac. However I've had generally better experiences in partial shade, because the foliage remains longer beautiful.

VG Philipp

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Dienstag, 8. April 2014, 14:01

Hello together,

well turns out that I made a mistake. The konjac by Chen Yi (so "dunnii", "Rosy Grey Stem" etc...) is not 'Shredded Umbrellas'! I have used this name to be premature.

C. Claudel has spoken in the last post by a second clone discussion linked above, who looks very much like the plants of Chen Yi, but earlier was introduced. On request Mr. Galloway has called the reference source for the plants I, who later received the name 'Shredded Umbrellas' by Tony Avent. Prompt it was collected in Yunnan the older clone, originally of Li Heng. Allegedly, this has slightly less divided leaves, sees the recent clone of Chen Yi but confusingly similar.

VG Philipp

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Dienstag, 8. April 2014, 20:23

Hi Philip,.
I can not open unfortunately your link (no Facebook account).
What real name now has your offered tubers?
I obviously care since a speeding tickets from you when I just drive out :D
Thank you and warm greeting
Thank you.

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Mittwoch, 9. April 2014, 01:05

Hi Daniel,.

You can choose now that either "Rosy Grey Stem", "dunnii" or "Pale Petiole" :D
I gave preference to the first label but, because she is also sold by Mr. Malkmus under this name. So, it saves unnecessary confusion...

I'll notify separately but anyway still all the people who got me tubers. I am just no longer added.

VG Philipp

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Mittwoch, 9. April 2014, 22:23

Hi Philip,.
Thank you very much for the Info!
Daniel VG

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Freitag, 21. November 2014, 18:09

Hi, that saw only now it is in rosy grey Stem and shredded umbrellas are 2 different variants
What for a Variant I have now: rosy grey Stem or shredded umbrellas? Can you distinguish the somehow?

courtesy
Seiti

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Freitag, 16. Oktober 2015, 11:14

Hi, is there something new about Amorphophallus konjac 'pale petiole' (rosy grey Stem, dunni) and the variety of 'Shredded Umbrellas'. Would very interested that the two varieties I really

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