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Donnerstag, 20. Juni 2013, 12:20

Typhonium venosum Unterschiede?

Hello people!:)

HAB because times these two as typhonium ulcers got a question, but I is noticed when one of my whole typh. Ven. the leaves are much wider than the others, it can be it themselves and something else the variety typhonium is?
And one more question I have are the points on the petiole about always evenly distributed or it may happen that very many points there are and the other only a few?
I have attached two images, because you can see what I mean.

Greeting Dennis.
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Donnerstag, 20. Juni 2013, 13:42

If the plants are not genetically identical (E.g. primary Cormels of same mother tuber), slight differences in appearance are quite normal. People see ja also quite different. :-)

Perhaps sunny than the others was a plant? This can affect also the leaf shape so the location, light, Earth, fertilizers, etc.

Oh yes, because different varieties: there are Typhonium venosum 'Indian giant', which is huge compared to the normal form. If your tuber eventually suddenly has 30 cm in diameter and weighs kilos, you know that it is the variety. :-)
Gruß,
Christian

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Donnerstag, 20. Juni 2013, 15:18

Hi Dennis,

to "'Indian Giant' that see through here once...:"
Typhonium venosum in original condition?

Its broadleaf looks suspiciously like 'Indian Giant'...

Happy growing,
Bernhard.

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Donnerstag, 20. Juni 2013, 16:00

Since I have one, that with "giant Indian" was labelled, and even drives, I wait times until the sheet is folded out and then I times a picture purely then you can compare:)

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Donnerstag, 20. Juni 2013, 19:33

Hi Dennis,

I am also of the opinion that the plant looks like IG. But there are differences in Typhonium venosum. I with double leaf and double number of hand fingers, plants with narrow leaf segments, tubers need significantly more heat a few plants with brown spots on the shaft, etc. before they begin, and conversely that much earlier start a few Knollen(USA) than the others, and for a year..! There will be T fracture Yes three different tribes; from the Mediterranean region, from Asia and from Australia.

I also made the observation that the number of points for IG in all new leaf is less. When using the normal form I haven't seen that.

Greeting Phillip

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Sonntag, 23. Juni 2013, 19:24

Thank you for this detailed answer!...:)
I'll call them now just times "IG" is now a small second hand.
Still I wanted to ask where is made the new bulb?
It is formed at the base of the leaf, because I see so little things at the base of the leaf, but if it is a new bulb, then they should grow in the Earth and not above ground, or?

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Sonntag, 23. Juni 2013, 21:46

"I see so little things at the base of the leaf"
... it is possible that you do not deep enough have set the bulb and what you are seeing, roots are? They come from the top of the tuber. Therefore, the tuber should have twice their size, Earth on top of it.

"Where is the new tuber formed?"
Bernard has a super interesting post titled "The new tuber" in the thread Typhonium venosum in original condition? posted - easy read. Just printed out. the new bulb is formed from the upper half of the old Corm and the lower half is slowly consumed by the new Corm. You can watch it in the spring if you set a large tuber to a plate with water, which further are leaving after flowering. A hump grows slowly up from the old bulb out. Because of the long winter, have I - observed this spring it thereafter, as Bernhard had posted this post, did I understand what happened.

Greeting Phillip

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Sonntag, 23. Juni 2013, 22:32

IG fans

I could only write the "super interesting" post after Phillip had previously described his careful observations and then the confirmation of the aroid-L sent Lord P.(ureWisdom)...:icon_winkgrin:

Happy growing, Bernhard.

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Montag, 24. Juni 2013, 19:33

Hi Dennis,
Surely you mean the small pear-shaped lumps above the roots, which looks like a Cormel.

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Montag, 24. Juni 2013, 22:21

Yes, exactly these two lumps I mean!...:)
But that should not be surrounded with Earth, which grow almost to the surface of the Earth.
Easy to grow, or cover it with Earth?

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Dienstag, 25. Juni 2013, 19:13

The bulb seems to be quite flat planted. Is not bad but the Cormel will also develop.

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