Vergleich verschiedener Substrate

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Mittwoch, 3. April 2013, 18:40

Vergleich verschiedener Substrate

Hello together.
There is here a few essays about substrates, but we want to make a direct comparison under similar conditions. The Guinea Pigs are about 6 g 3 heavy Cormels of the species Amorphophallus konjac. All 3 pots are large 19cm (3. 5l).
All the pots evenly to get fertilizer and will stand at the same location. The water supply depends on the storage capacity of the substrates.
Substrate 1:Basic potting of Hellweg, the cheap candidate
Substrate 2: Unit Earth type of pot, the professional substrate
Substrate 3: Special mixture of approximately equal parts of forest soil and unit Earth, to a little charcoal semolina (charcoal is Yes in several contributions here highly praised)

Of course, it is now first wait announced, 2-3 weeks will already take the first shoot tips out.
Maybe someone of you would like to test other substrates in similar experiments, then have all measurable results on the quality of substrates.

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Mittwoch, 3. April 2013, 20:29

Try but times also a tuber in hydroponics in pumice/lava/Seramis or so. I bet that work. Always nice with the foot in fertilizer solution. : D

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Christian

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Mittwoch, 3. April 2013, 20:42

So me there that would be missing perlite for the aeration of the soil.

The best about 20% perlite, pumice gravel, expanded clay fraction, or similar use.

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Donnerstag, 4. April 2013, 11:50

Venting additives intended for sensitive species, but ne Konjac loves but humus. In nature, they grow so practically in pure leaves Earth. We have unfortunately no equipment for hydroponics.

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Donnerstag, 4. April 2013, 13:34

Konjac grows in any soil in my experience, no matter how hard or compacted. Mainly the plant gets its nutrients and water

but to the test, you could certainly times even an aggregate mix

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Donnerstag, 4. April 2013, 20:00

Holzkohle für was mehrfach angepriesen ?

can you tell me more about the effects of charcoal? I was thinking taking this fight to damaged areas (mold). I'm as misinformed? And if you use it, how much? I tu grilling year-round

(also in the depths of winter) thus charcoal me exists en masse. :-D

Greetings Sookie

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Donnerstag, 4. April 2013, 21:34

Use the search of the Forum to do this please times. There you will find a lot of information.

How does exactly the charcoal, is unclear. Fact is, footprint it works.

It uses charcoal powder for damaged areas. To the involved in the substrate to use charcoal semolina.

Take to your charcoal and break them small. Then you can sift out yet they. I am always the charcoal with a diameter of 5-12 mm

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Freitag, 5. April 2013, 11:03

What earth take you in this post here:
among other things deals with charcoal, the comparison of root growth is impressive.

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Sonntag, 7. April 2013, 11:05

Holzkohletipps

Thanks for the impressive tips and pictures on the subject of charcoal.

Greetings Sookie

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Freitag, 31. Mai 2013, 18:36

Weeks have passed, now the brood nodules grow at last. Which is the most basic Earth, but sure fortuitously so. Ever a minus point for the basic ground: at the beginning of Sciaridae were in there, we pour out with Neem needed to destroy.
For 6 g-nodules are the leaves really great!
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Freitag, 31. Mai 2013, 18:38

Die Basic- Konjac am Vortag mit Größenangabe:
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Samstag, 1. Juni 2013, 00:41

Hi, good looks.

The size of the sheet off but says nothing about the substrate because this is controlled solely by the size of the tuber, which you have used in the substrate. This tuber is in the form of sheet used up and the sheet is a new bulb until autumn. Therefore, it is crucial the tuber is how big, then newly formed. In autumn, when all are indented, you can compare them then.

At the beginning of the substrate with the charcoal semolina should worse something. There, the sheet should be pretty pale green while the others are already green. But fairly quickly brings up the plant.

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Montag, 3. Juni 2013, 16:11

Klarsichttöpfe

Hi,.

am really curious what will come out. Vlt would be for more trials. clear pots (Orchid needed) helpful, because you can then observe the root growth.

Greetings

Michael

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Montag, 3. Juni 2013, 18:15

Please use No transparent pots. The roots of plants die off by sunlight. Sunlight is lethal to roots.

For this reason, the pots are also all dark in colour. Orchids need clear pots because their aerial roots need light.

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Montag, 3. Juni 2013, 20:41

We are from pot plants later in the year once, then you can see the root growth

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Montag, 24. Juni 2013, 19:54

Update

So, now all leaves are fully developed. It is surprising how the leaves from left to right are compact, although in our opinion is left slightly brighter location. Casting behavior differ the substrates only slightly, the special mixture absorbs the most water.

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Does anyone have experiences whether Cormels of this size make yet a second sheet, then it could be Yes quite closely in the pots.

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Dienstag, 25. Juni 2013, 09:59

So if because no damage on the tuber occurs, no additional sheet should be there.

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Dienstag, 25. Juni 2013, 11:15

Konjacs several leaves can produce at this size. I had konjac times 5 sheets during the season on a 30 g

it can however also in this remain a leaf, just wait

and if the pot is too small, repot or the pot is simply blown

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Dienstag, 25. Juni 2013, 12:53

That proves nothing, of course but I planted one of my two bulbifer tubers in a large orchid pot due to lack of normal pot and the roots can look beautiful outside. More roots that look white and healthy apart from some algae, are even on the sunny side. The pot is the South roof without pot, so sure properly got off light.
Will stick but soon in a pot it, when the tide comes.

If the pots in light-tight Ego², transparent pots are sure good to keep the root State in mind, I do not believe that the roots of this take damage. Could be but of course type-dependent.

Gruß,
Christian

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Dienstag, 25. Juni 2013, 19:17

The roots of konjacs look precisely at the shoot in dark pots quite like on the surface. You are also not damaged. Possible, they in the Orchid pot without problems grow.