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Donnerstag, 22. November 2012, 11:08

"Semihydro" / Sumpfkultur / Kokossubstrat

Hello

I wanted to write here about my experience with coconut substrate and "alternative casting methods".

I can no longer find the thread, but it had somebody warned me here once, coconut substrate was ill-suited, or something like that because it releases no nutrients.

I have a few years ago, almost all plants only in coconut ("Kokosnöt" from IKEA) mixed with perlite or sand or other additives depending on the plant planted in normal Earth with me always Sciaridae came.

Actually the warning has come true, because after one year in the substrate, the tubers were practically exactly as big as before, sometimes less. I have fertilized but too little.

Anyway I've fertilized then this year at every casting, and from convenience and lack of the coasters were all small Amorphos in a tub, where I then directly filled up the water, so that all the pots are able to absorb.
Long story short: fertilizer water remained often over a week in the tub until all absorbed or evaporated was. The plant had so nearly permanent wet feet. I had surprisingly no loss and an increase in the tubers it showed for the first time!

I suspect that it only worked, because the Kokoszeug practically does not rot. At normal potting soil the waterlogging would have certainly led to decay sooner or later. What do you mean?
Gruß,
Christian

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Donnerstag, 22. November 2012, 18:10

Well, depends also how high the water is. If the water level does not reach the tubers, they get enough air through the loose coconut substrate safely. Experiementier let's perhaps blended with forest or garden soil, coconut fibre, because certainly no Sciaridae go inside and the tubers grow much more.

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Donnerstag, 22. November 2012, 18:14

Hello

properly. Coconut can save no nutrients and not, like Earth, the pH value of the soil buffers.
Coconut so forgive any Überdüngungen.

The coconut tiles, the one at ebay and co. Gets, are all unbuffered. Thus can the substrate pH will not compensate for.
There is a tool. It's called canna CoGr buffering agent by this means potassium, calcium and magnesium ions at the coconut bind himself. Thus the coconut can compensate then value the pH in the extent. These funds are in the solution where it softens the block. Typically, water, fertilizer, and mycorrhiza is

When coconut it is important that you fertilizes with each watering, so that the nutrient level is always the same.
The substrate should never dry out.
You should also proceed to waste principle according to the drain.


So getting as much casting, that at least 20% of the pouring water down again comes out of the pot. Thus it flushes out excess salts from the pot.
The water flowed out is tipped away.
In addition 1 time a month with rainwater or reverse osmosis water the pot rinse and then pour into the pot equal to fertilizer solution.

Because the coconut substrate no or hardly any micro-organisms, is advisable to inoculate the substrate with mycorrhiza. And since there hardly any bacteria in the substrate must you also help, so that dead plant residues are removed. There is an enzyme preparation which then produced from the dead plant parts, plant sugars.

If you want to have it exactly, adjust value of the casting solution every time the pH. To treat Gießwassser and nutrient intake is impeded and to basic water also.

You should fertilize at coconut with high-quality nutrients. Organic fertilizers are unsuitable on coconut. These must be made until plants available by the soil bacteria. And since there are no soil bacteria in coconut, the fertilizer doesn't work.
Since suitable hydro fertilizers.

If you want yourself well-read about the cultivation on coconut you should time a trip in the literature of the farmers take cannabis. I bought a book about it.


I'll take next season but a slightly different route.
I have 2 small maxwellii tubers. I bottle one in normal standard soil and the other in my coconut mixture. Then, both in the summer come out. Let's see if that is what. My goal is coconut a substrate similar to the unit Earth to create.

I mix me with clay minerals in the coconut. More bentonite said. It has a buffer effect. Therefore should you purely theoretically also from coconut a memory-enabled Earth bekommmen.

MfG

Stephan

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Freitag, 23. November 2012, 16:59

Hello Stephen,

whom you ca 30% bentonite mix below, you have Yes about what unit Earth eintspricht.
I've never had coconut substrate, but I so my reservations regarding the stability of the structure. I imagine similar to this as strongly decomposed peat of black and that is precisely the disadvantage compared to little decomposed white peat.

Maybe you can adjust once a macro shot of the coconut substrate...

Happy growing, Bernhard.

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Freitag, 23. November 2012, 17:50

Lillian is heavy with the iPhone:D

This is the structure most definitely gross as the ED 73.

I use this substrate:

Cocopack 50/50

You can take also here: Growbag

There you can see also the substrate. I mix to in addition there long coir .
The pH value of the Cocoserde is 5.3-6.5 without admixture.


Then I'll mix up probably with 10% worm humus for my attempt, so that comes to life in the ground and then another 15% bentonite and 15% vermiculite.


To this basic mix, I'll mix Biochar, even pine bark and perlite


@Bernhard: coconut fiber is very Strukturstabil. You can use it even several years. Just the old earth treat with the preparation of the enzyme and thus converted old root remains to sugar.

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Freitag, 23. November 2012, 18:12

I understand quite why it should operate as a burden with Coco substrates. Plants grow much better in a natural soil. Is it to have because that bad a few micro-organisms in the soil? Rather the opposite! Was used also in horticulture instead on compost or topsoil. The trend towards light coconut and peat substrates increases only the usage of mineral fertilizers. They are in their properties but nice light and always the same, therefore they are used especially in the production.

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Freitag, 23. November 2012, 20:32

Very simple. The whole compost manure and the DIY Earth are just not strukurstabil. Have I had problems for many years.

Since I'm using standard soil, the super work.

Coconut is cheaper and easier to get than standard soil. Also you can store the tiles easier as such, 50 or 70 liter bags

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Samstag, 24. November 2012, 18:26

Hello Stephen,

Thanks for the links and I must admit that it makes me curious now.
The coconut scene seems to learnt to have...;-)

I find just this coarse, long fibres which are mixed with the coconut chips, very interesting; also the Biochar to the same provider would possibly be a good alternative to the tedious Zerklopfen by charcoal.

Happy mixing, Bernhard.

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Samstag, 24. November 2012, 20:58

Yes, where there is the Biochar, is very interesting. got mine because several things to the test ordered

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