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Freitag, 28. September 2012, 08:34

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Hai

I am still right at the beginning with my Amorphophallus collection. Here, I wanted to ask whether there are types of which it is said. that they are somewhat "harder" to maintain. Do you know of such species that might under normal conditions are untenable or it would make a very high expense?

There may be a collection of all known species with care instructions or guidelines? Table using the maintenance during the rest period I have already seen the Excell, but I'm looking for something ausfürlicherem with temp. Max and min. light, humidity, etc.

What da anyone knows?



MFG

Dominic

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Samstag, 29. September 2012, 12:00

Hello

levels all types which it outsources not dry during the resting phase, are harder to keep than konjac and co.

These are far more temperature sensitive, as species that man dry winters.

As difficult, I see E.g. A, aphyllus, although it belongs to the species to be stored dry. Here at our latitude not to keep, since it requires a temperature of approximately 40 °.
A.aphyllus will be so getting smaller with us rather than to grow, until she dies.

Then, I would because even A.hewittii call, the temperatures, at the 28 needed to grow effectively.
Not necessarily the heaviest is A. pendulus the attitude, but you get it not to the blossom. The experts suspect it very sensitive to stress. Never out of the pot should be taken this way. From small on the tuber in a large saucepan should.
Even the Amorphophallus Guru W.Hetterscheidt has this kind not the blossom get.

There are certainly far more species that have your characteristics.

Roughly, it fails the attitude but whenever temperature and substrate problems.

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Samstag, 29. September 2012, 12:24

Hai

Do you also get such "untenable" types, or there are only in the tropical rainforest?

Is the A.titanum more durable, or? He becomes very large.

MFG

Dominic

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Samstag, 29. September 2012, 13:28

Well if you have appropriate contacts, one comes also in rarer species. You'll never get all kinds.

Titanum is also not so necessarily suitable for beginners: icon_wink2:

Who thinks A.titanum is so easy to maintain, as konjac, mistaken.

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Samstag, 29. September 2012, 18:12

Hi Dominic,.

What type is considered to be difficult, is difficult to answer, because it is always on the conditions.

Considered very difficult to impossible but pendulus and bufo. But even people with green thumb to have managed that.

To bufo I have consulted once in the aroid mailingliste, because a friend had heard, that there should be someone on the scene, holding home bufo on the windowsill.
(Which showed the request, do I copy below in the post, please the translation function, which has implemented Stephan here in the Forum, use, or ask the babelfish ( http://www.bing.com/translator/ ).-I don't currently have time to translate it all...)

I own some bufo are since the spring in the winter garden, where there is of course also more than 24 ° C in sunlight, but so far they still grow and make a new page at the time. Whether they come well over the winter and continued to hold in the next summer, when it will again over 24 ° C, are must see.

rhizomatosus, lambii and hewittii are certainly difficult, but some can hold.

Generally you should always try to get out, as are the conditions at the Wildstandort - but beware, that does not mean that that are optimal and it; just imitate that, are out through simply only conditions, under which the type survives and reticulate and these conditions can be sub-optimal for the art or the growth of the art.

Since I was not clear, that taurostigma in Madagascar probably under conditions of dry and rainy seasons grows, have lost I my first 'White Veins', that I they like titanum or hewittii (immerfeuchte tropics) after docking have kept slightly moist. My new is now dry in the living room closet!

Species immerfeuchten Indonesian tropical falls me a ad hoc still that decus-silvae for me is less stature, like gigas. But that may be reversed for other...

Happy growing, Bernhard.

P.S.: So, here's the mail from the aroid mailing list to bufo (highland):
(P.P.S.: just to clarify; there are still one bufo lowland, which probably cope with wäremren temperatures.) (But which hardly anyone, since she has, so I know much, only for very much money in Asiatic Green is to get.)

Amorphophiles,

quite some time ago I sent a question asking growing advice for
Amorphophallus bufo (Cameron Highlands, Malaysia).

I got only one reply and that what off list from Pascal Bruggeman from
The Netherlands. And he is in deed the one who grows bufo on a window
sill, a thing I heard rumors about before.
He did not mind forwarding his growing adjourned to the list and here we
go:

"the main reason in failing with bufo is that it is grown TOO HOT." So
No, they should need be grown warm! Bufo grows in the Cameron Highlands
and the day temps will not exceed much above 22-24 C. night temps can
easily drop to 13 C. So very inmportant is to keep the compost evenly
moist, I have lost too dry and then 2 plants by letting the compost get
give them water, roots of this species seem to rot easily with
fluctuating moisture content and so water it from the sides of the
pot.

Bufo doesn't mind dry air, it does however mind fluctuating moisture
levels of the soil so I have to admit I grow it on a window sill with a
plastic bag around the pot so there is no evaporation from the soil.

Regarding the potting mix I grow them in, it is a mix of fibrous peat,.
chunks of peat and bark. It is a commercally availble mix as in NL
"Jongkind No. 7". But as with most cultivation, each growing condition
requires a different mix, it could very well be that what does well in
my situation will not in yours. But in the wild you can find them in a
crumbly clay like soil with the top of the tuber and some of the roots
in the humus layer. Usually these growing conditions are very hard to
duplicate in cultivation so I always try a "normal" mix first. And this
time it was OK, Jongkind 7 is humus rich, airy and moisture retentive.

Regarding the plastic bag, I either put the whole pot in a plastic bag
and tie it cling film around the stem or put on the pot when I pot the
Tuber up. Once it comes up I simply make a small hole to let the shoot
through. Purpose is to minimize the evaporation from the soil to the
only water loss is for growth and through the leaves. It means that
instead of watering it twice a weekI have to water it once every 3
weeks. This creates a more stable moisture content in the put. In the
wild the moisture levels are also very constant because of the buffering
capacity of the forest floor and the dead leaves on the soil also
prevent evaporation from the soil. I basically use cling film to replace
forest leaves....."

Thanks to Pascal again via this post (just in case that he's still
reading the aroid-L).

Hoping that this might be helpful for everyone who wants to grow species
from similar habitats.

Happy growing, Bernhard.


-----Original Message-----
> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 19:48:24 +0100
> Subject: [Aroid-l] Amorphophallus bufo growing advice

> Aroiders,

can someone give some more advice than the general
(free draining potting mix, warm growing conditions, fairly moist due to
the origin - Malaysian highland mountain rainforest)
to grow Amorphophallus bufo (Highland) .

All I heard so far is that it is pretty difficult; on the other hand the
are rumors (well a single one) that it can be grown on a window sill
(yes, bufo, not a misslabled konjac or something similar...).

Looking forward to any suggestion.....
Best, Bernhard.

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Dienstag, 9. Oktober 2012, 09:28

Hai



OK thanks for the info first. I will first hold me to the available types and look what I on the Internet get in shops.

I hope I put at one time not too much to me. You must keep Yes.



MFG

Dominic

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Dienstag, 9. Oktober 2012, 11:12

Hi Bernard,.

I've read through just exactly your post me. Thank you for this info. I think bufo my namely on a heating pad.

Then I'll take the da times quickly down. In the room there are eh over 20 degrees.

With me just comes...

There are Yes bufo highland and lowland bufo. The instructions for the Highland would Variant. The lowland is then certainly something more robust, or do you have because other findings?

MfG
Stephan

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Mittwoch, 10. Oktober 2012, 09:53

Hi Stephan,.

This is such a deal with bufo highland...

I have itself which in the film tent are sure often above 25 ° C, but whether that goes well in the long run, I don't know yet.
She had a friend in the Warmhaus where she grew well at first to your amazement, after a few months then it is entered into.

As my "highlander" like it in the winter garden, which is cold sometimes up to 12 ° C the winter, I have to wait.

The bufo lowland should be adapted to warmer conditions, but I don't know whether it is otherwise also more robust, because she've never owned it and also anyone know who they...
(see above: "(P.P.S.:_Nur_zuder_Klarstellung;_es_gibt_noch_eine_lowland_bufo,_die_vermutlich_mit_wäremren_Temperaturen_zurecht_kommt.)") (But which hardly anyone, since she has, so I know much, only for very much money in Asiatic Green is to get.)""

Much money is other 250,-€, this was before 2-3 years at least the price...

Happy buying and growing,
Bernhard.

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Mittwoch, 10. Oktober 2012, 15:42

Thank you once again. I roof I would one have lowland:D

It is also a Higland certainly bufo. Na I am indeed curious.

Ortwin

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Mittwoch, 10. Oktober 2012, 17:46

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Not necessarily the heaviest is A. pendulus the attitude, but you get it not to the blossom.
Hello

does this type than anyone currently on A. pendulus to coming back, or know anything about the care
(tropical, minimum temperature, etc.)? How big is A. pendulus at all?

Greeting Ortwin

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Mittwoch, 10. Oktober 2012, 17:57

Ich kann nur soviel zu pendulus sagen. Sehr schwer zu halten. Deswegen wird da kaum jemand Erfahrung in der Sache haben. Ich glaube aber, dass es eine Highland Art ist. Somit nicht sehr warm halten. Brauch mit Sicherheit eine hohe Luftfeuchte.

Laut der dormany List wird sie ca. 90 cm hoch und die Knolle erreicht einen Durchmesser von ca. 18 cm

Ich zitiere mal Wilbert Hetterscheidt

Zitat

A. pendulus is probably the most bitchy species to grow. After many
years of cultivating amorphs, I still am unable to get pendulus to
flowering size. What is especially disturbing is that they seem to
seriously HATE to be disturbed! In your case I would advise you to take
out the entire clump of soil and plant and do not try to shake off the
old soil and transplnat the whole thing into a larger post with fresh
soil surrounding the old soil. I wish you ALL the luck with this most
awful to grow amorph, yet one of the most beautiful ones.

If somebody has good results with pendulus, please let him/her come out
and share this miracle with us!

Cheers,
Wilbert


Quelle : http://www.hort.net

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Mittwoch, 10. Oktober 2012, 20:08

Hi Stephan,.

Thanks for the Info; It seems then really a very beautiful but also very difficult art to be.

Greeting
Ortwin

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Mittwoch, 10. Oktober 2012, 21:07

I also think that

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Donnerstag, 11. Oktober 2012, 08:18

Hai



Is A.pendulus available for a normal mortals?



MFG

Dominic

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Donnerstag, 11. Oktober 2012, 09:23

Your own shark or better:
Hi Dominic,.
Yes, Asiatic Green and Andreas Wistuba have in the past which offered - but they are really difficult in the culture...
Happy growing (or rather killing),
Bernhard.

P.S.: The "killing" does not mean that no one can keep pendulus. the two providers should it actually can and they do not kill... otherwise they could not offer yes probably it...;)
Unless they are all freshly collected tubers, which then go to Ripopulation its quick end...:icon_frown:

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Sonntag, 23. Dezember 2012, 15:42

Hai

Again to bufo and pendulus. I've seen them above provider for 40€ or 50€.

How is the price? As Bernhard had said, the Prei0 was 2 or 3 years still about 200€.

Why now at once so cheap? Or are there as special free shipping?

MFG

Dominic

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Sonntag, 23. Dezember 2012, 17:44

Hi Dominic,.

the answer here in post #6.
Where can I get a Titanwurz (A. titanum)?
So own propagation in Germany...

Happy buying, Bernhard.

P.S.: again...: both types are really hard to hold!
pendulus I had not; My bufo live still some; I can report the conditions under which they have survived, so they still live in the spring in the spring...

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Sonntag, 23. Dezember 2012, 17:51

Hai

OK, then they are on D and has no import restrictions etc.

I am interested, but I don't know whether my conditions are sufficient.

I would keep it light at approximately 22 ° C.

Bufo highland, would be according to the theory, no problem: on the contrary, who want it Yes do not have 25-30 ° C

Must consider whether the attempt is worth me.

Or do you rather: the finger let them rather equal.

MFG

Dominic

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Sonntag, 23. Dezember 2012, 18:00

Hi Dominic,.

Hmmm, so, if I have some Eurone too much into the petty cash, I'll try pendulus with one.
But you have to have the money really "left".
I don't know anyone who pen could fours pendulus really long periods of time i.e. over a vegetative phase.

(UN)Happy growing, Bernhard.

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Sonntag, 23. Dezember 2012, 18:24

Hello

you save your money for the pendulus. You can invest even more meaningful. This is probably the way to continuing with the hardest. It reacts to the smallest changes. For example it does not like you at all, to be repotted.

Not even Wilbert Hetterscheid has managed this type to the blossom to bring.

The bufo, however, grows quite well for me so far. Let's see whether it stays that way. It should be difficult to keep. It is a tuber is difficult. If so, there is a problem with the plant, then it is usually.

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