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Sonntag, 10. Juni 2012, 13:38

Amorphophallus atrovirirdis

Amorphophile,

When the greenies, there was a complaint that atroviridis refuses to cast out and would eaten by Sciaridae.

Prior to that, atroviridis in slightly moist substrate to one pot before the bud begins to swell significantly, I would advise against very.
The danger of blight is very large.
In addition, art best in deep rose or Palm pots should be getopft because the root is very long.

If anyone could describe his experience, it would be certainly interesting...:icon_wink2:

Happy growing, Bernhard.

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Sonntag, 10. Juni 2012, 14:02

Hi Bernard,.

that I can only confirm that Sciaridae tubers are good friends of the Amorphophallus. I lost several tubers.

This is related to all types, not just A.atroviridis.


The rest of the theme I can connect me only your words. The tubers up only pot if definitely growth is visible.

MfG
Stephan

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Sonntag, 10. Juni 2012, 14:30

Hello

I was the one who has sued over there. Thank you for the PN, Bernhard!

I have never had problems with Sciaridae and Amorphophallus, except with atroviridis as mentioned. I keep my tubers all dry and from getopft, until the first Austriebe come in the spring. Then I plant all they and moist at the Earth, the tubers without beads come then almost at the same time as the others out of the Earth, therefore I wait not yet until they expel. Note: These are all still very small tubers! Hence small quick-drying pots.
I use mixed very loose coconut substrate (KOKOSNÖT IKEA) with Perliten. With other plants, I had the experience that Sciaridae dislike this substrate (in contrast to normal potting soil) and really only in the pot, if the plant most go off is. It is very airy and dries well, can be easy to moisten but also in the dried state.

My first atroviridis bulb I naturopplevingar bought and planted a while later, but she do not drive. The Ausbuddeln revealed then, that the tuber was go up on a pea-sized pieces. This little drive but actually still out. The resulting tuber is dried up but over the winter with the bearings.

The following year I ordered 3 tubers from Thailand. They were really great, unfortunately one is moldy during transport. I've stored dark and dry, like the other tubers, the other two, as was already autumn. Dried unfortunately they are up just after. I've even planted one, but nothing happened to it.

This year I bought a new bulb and just planted (because I did not want that she dried up), but the lowest bit (the bulb is very long, like a carrot) had it probably to damp and was blown away. The rest is still intact and I'll make a, doing something at the top. I hope this works now, finally.:motz:

I also think I have a list read times, where Amorphophallus species, divided into groups once with dry rest period and once stood which, where don't dry the bulb in the rest period should and atroviridis in not dry (or had a special position).

Well, I wonder whether coming here even more experiences!

Greeting,
Christian
Gruß,
Christian

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Sonntag, 10. Juni 2012, 14:44

Hi Christian,

It would be interesting where you have.... read the words "atroviridis - not dry storage"

Anschau following you yet again:

1. Amorphophallus soil/dormancy list / substrate / storage conditions / rest
at the bottom the xls file to the Heruntetladen...

2. The Earth? Let bulb in the ground? Origin?
Here ESP. # 5

Happy reading, Bernhard.

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Sonntag, 10. Juni 2012, 14:52

Hi Christian.

So as I read this, you're right everything.

In fact, there is this list, which you mention. That is called dormancy list. Enter times in the search here on the Forum that. There you will find the said list then.

Atroviridis belongs to the Group 1 Amorphophallus. This group is generally dry stored.
I have also always dry stored this way and never had problems with it.

Look you here:

http://www.aroid.org/genera/Amorphophallus/amcult.php


There read in the soil.

The only thing I find very negative, is the coconut substrate. Coconut has a stupid habit to have no nutrients and also very bad store. For this reason, Koko is used in hydroponics.

To use coconut, you'd have at least 1 times a day pour the substrate so that the nutrient level remains the same.
Coconut applied the "drain to waste" method.

Amorphophallus need rich, nutrient-rich soil. Atroviridis for example like firmer, clay-based soils, how many species from Thailand.

MfG
Stephan

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Sonntag, 10. Juni 2012, 15:02

Thanks, I already know these lists. Now that I it again have regarded me, I think I've confused which atroviridis needs no damp rest period, but different substrate, this was what I myself probably reminded.
Well, that I have getopft the tubers, posted related Yes above all, dried that she ungetopft always up are without to drive...

EDIT: Stephen, I'm using the coconut substrate only, because the Sciaridae non tuned go and because I like to forget to pour and potting soil is most often a dry stone, where water simply rolls off. Therefore laziness.:icon_blushnew:

Now they are all already driven... next year I try again perhaps a mixture of Earth.
Gruß,
Christian

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Sonntag, 10. Juni 2012, 15:15

You can do a small layer of gravel or sand on the Earth at normal Earth. Since the Sciaridae not come also.

Always dry store Yes Atroviridis.
It is also important to store not only dry but also cool. Nothing should dry up but at 15 ° C and dry storage.
When you dry you up without Earth, you may put them also into dry Earth and during the rest period not pour. Perhaps only during the rest period a few splashes water on the ground against. This should dry out that prevent.


I know that with the Earth. Therefore, I'm not normal potting soil from the hardware store but Earth peat-based. She can be easily again to moisten.

MfG
Stephan

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Sonntag, 10. Juni 2012, 21:58

An Amorphophallus atroviridis I have though but not an A. operculatus which refuses since November 2010 to exorcise. :icon_irre: I've scratched times today on the Corm she lives but will not expel them.:icon_confused:

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Sonntag, 10. Juni 2012, 22:13

Hello Seiti,

Scraping would I let or if already, then the body very well Abbots rock, before the Knollle again comes in the substrate.
Even if the came as a fresh wound in quite dry substrate, a humid atmosphere could make to the wound around and I would arge concerns that could lead to rot.

Then your operculatus has cracked already the 14 month record for late driving from...:icon_thumbs1:
here # 30: Mr.. Titanum's collection

Happy waiting, Bernhard.

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Sonntag, 10. Juni 2012, 22:32

had to look so whether the bulb is still alive because it was externally not well seen
at the moment, she will be stored dry. Tried but she keep something wet, but because she wanted to not cast out also. am curious whether that sometime still chooses auszuteiben à. It is to a very small bulb with 4 g I got it now it has after this long time still less weight

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Sonntag, 10. Juni 2012, 22:39

Hello Seiti,

really 4 g? Not 40 or 400?
Can I see so what light with the naked eye?
And that is completely thong not after long time?

Surprised regards, Bernhard.

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Montag, 11. Juni 2012, 00:14

Yes 4 g. belongings she now again weighed if my Wagge does the tuber is easy now only 2 g hard

I think the main problem is that the tip is away (blown off, way gefault?) and the tuber apparently has problems to make a new Triebspitzte. It amazes me that who still lives

Have now sought after the tuber photo from November 2010 to the comparison so it looks now out
has the color of changed and she declined somewhat
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Montag, 11. Juni 2012, 07:54

Hello Seiti,

Would OK, at an assumed density of 1 be 4 CC 4 g anyway...

But very promising this Brown something does not look:icon_sadnew:

Chic but an update, if what is happening; that would be certainly interesting to read how that turns out.

Good luck, Bernhard.

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Donnerstag, 21. Juni 2012, 18:51

Temperatur / Feuchte

Hi,.

Unfortunately I have my Atroviridis this year not over the winter brought, just as the Paeonifolius.

I think that this was due to the temperature, all tubers in the basement at about 5-10°C. The tubers were properly in the spring mud. Overwintering has adapted all the others probably, but I think this is yet too cold.

As regards the Sciaridae, so I've reduced last year a gigantic invasion in a few days to zero. HAB Nexion (active ingredient: Chlorpyrifos) used. Have achieved but, although it was indeed a good year, practically no root growth. I don't know if this had to do with the Nexion.

LG

Michael

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Samstag, 23. Juni 2012, 11:02

Hello

so 5-10 degrees is too little.

There should be minimum 15 degrees. In the natural environment, it is not so cold.

I had an injury to my consimilis tuber.

Since then stock I they only dark at 15-20 degrees.

MfG
Stephan

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Montag, 8. Oktober 2012, 14:43

Wanted to just again give feedback that my bulb has been successfully and with a beautiful velvety leaf pleases me now while the other stinker already begin to collect. :-)
Gruß,
Christian

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Montag, 8. Oktober 2012, 15:31

Hi Christian,.

NA, this is but ' sometimes good news!
Let them grow so long it goes; get hire also in the living room, where it is nice and warm.

Good luck still...
Bernhard.

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Montag, 8. Oktober 2012, 20:28

Thank you for the whole instructions here to A. atroviridis.

I had bought me the art in Blankenberge (since it runs on the largest European exchange of succulent plant to Belgium and comes back with 2 Amorphophallus :icon_irre: ).
Is it "normal" that this type has several Austriebe (currently available as 3 leaves in the pot) or are also 3 tubers in the ground?

Ciao Tobias

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Montag, 8. Oktober 2012, 21:15

Hello

that depends entirely on the size of tubers on it. Small tubers which may occur and at large also. Then, but only if the tuber has a damage.

Consimilis like at my. It has flourished this year and now have 3 leaves in the pot.

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Dienstag, 9. Oktober 2012, 17:16

Then I leave times be surprised, what awaits me in the pot, when she has recovered.

Ciao Tobias

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