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Mittwoch, 16. Januar 2008, 19:27

Blüte Abhängig von Alter?

Hi
Today my teachers at school had brought 2 konjaks with bloom one tubers had less than 200 g and he said he has with even smaller flowers at home.
When I asked him how that is possible that that already blossom as a size he said he cannot explain is also there but it was probably with the age of the tubers as the tuber that bloom ever have had some kg more ^ ^
What do you of this theory?
LG Kevin

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Donnerstag, 17. Januar 2008, 20:04

Hello

I think nothing of it.

I have with me a three konjaks that are about 10 years old, perhaps even already older.
You were 8 years with a woman who is has taken care not really matter.
They grew really with me. You have not flourished but still not be and this year despite 500 grams it probably also still.

With kind regards
Stefan

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Freitag, 18. Januar 2008, 19:07

It could then do the tubers that have ever
were great? In a small tuber I would have said yes even chance but is about more.
LG

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Freitag, 18. Januar 2008, 19:42

Hello

perhaps is it a mutation?

It was at some point even ausgesäät.
And yes a slightly different in terms of genotyps plant any seeds.
It can be easily that because once one konjak came out the flowers as a smaller Corm.
This is although not earth-shattering Muatation, but interesting nonetheless.

You can indeed times ask your teacher for primary Cormels, I would have then may also be interested.

With kind regards
Stefan

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Freitag, 18. Januar 2008, 22:47

Hi
Making that just got Heuer for the first time by this genotype of berreits tubers the schwärste to the 500 g but no flower. auf jedenfall very strange but ne konjak bloom 40 cm is also very nice.'Ll look times whether I will be able to obtain photos.
LG

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Freitag, 18. Januar 2008, 23:32

Perhaps are emergency flowers just? Has your teacher neglected the tubers in the last season? But the weather was also not so ideal for Amorphos...

VG Philipp

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Freitag, 18. Januar 2008, 23:41

Jop they are late cast him out and have extremely reduced.The tubers have now perhaps more 200 g and had several kg.
How come after Buster is there is an emergency flower the tuber?
LG

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Freitag, 18. Januar 2008, 23:45

Eine Frage der Größe?

Hello Stefan + Kevin

A flower with 200 g weight?
Why not?
I am dealing with cellulose + friends since 2003 and it now abandoned, to be surprised about details.
=)
-I've heard of 2.5 kg dumplings never flourished in the, even I cultured one that lay down something like this just below 600 g of bloom! : p

-A.konjac seems to be, if their basic demands for growth and rest in an appropriate change to meet the adaptable nature of the whole genus.
. . .
-yet seem simply very different results to be possible as a result of this (and other factors)!
:???:
Green Greetings
Frank

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Samstag, 19. Januar 2008, 15:16

@ Kevin: to an emergency flower occur whenever the plant expected in the near future to make the spoon;-)
Typical triggers are lack of nutrients or drought. The plant focus their last reserves still reproduce before she dies.
Whether that means death to the tubers of your teacher I do not know, but I'm going times assuming that he has not pollinate it or would like to prevent a seed production. He is must halt this year just a bit more attention them, so that he sees soon after new flowers...

@ Dixon: basically I agree you, but a flower with 200 g is something very unusual for the konjac. I think that there must be a discernible reason for it.

I had my first konjac flower only with 2.6 kg, and the most intense of what I heard was a 6 kg heavy konjac, which has previously never flourished.

VG Philipp

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Samstag, 19. Januar 2008, 21:40

Yes dan I think also it's emergency flowers because all large tubers are crashed him totally and they now flourish.But look funny still.He has also already besteubt because he enough tubers which has same size that does not blossom and are also not as old.She hope are I not faded yet on Monday take times the camera to school with.
LG

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Sonntag, 20. Januar 2008, 08:08

Hello

I have actually to young plants flowering in Cardiocrinum giganteum beobachet: the courage it plant, flowering bloom sometimes also slightly larger subsidiary onions (with to small Blützenständen, raltiv to the size of the onion but OK), which would have to grow really a few years. This is then something stupid, because the flower is flanks bie of this type of lily, the onion dies off then inevitably (and leaves 5-15 subsidiary onions, hihi).

Flowering to young plants can be declared possibly as a result, that the school of the flower on chemical/hormonellem (?) Way into the plant occurs and these substances also in other parts of the kind ends plants work.
Has such a Amorph flourished, then any such triggers in the growing daughter nodules are transported.
Gruß Thorsten

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Donnerstag, 7. August 2008, 22:13

So have now finally drop business with him.
I've seen that konjaks you can not imagine hundreds square meters.
Nja and on that occasion I've photographed ne tuber which has flourished in winter very small in my opinion.



PS no surreptitious advertising should be lol

Det

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Dienstag, 25. November 2008, 18:18

Re: Blüte Abhängig von Alter?

Hi Kevin,.

what you have photographed there is probably a Typhonium / Sauromatum providing A.Konjak-flower but significantly different from - the bulb also.

I had to throw even a quite small perhaps a few 100 g - tuber, which has flourished first - maybe - to a new point of view in the debate, it has to do whether the plant flowers between them also with the relation of plant nutrients (phosphate and nitrogen).
Hypothesis: If she richly endowed with nutrients (nitrogen), it takes even more "start-up"
If it has anything, but something stops lean, it blooms... -you know at least from many other plants in the garden so.

Greeting,

Det

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Mittwoch, 26. November 2008, 05:17

Re: Blüte Abhängig von Alter?

Hi
Believe me I can very well ne of a Sauromatum decide Konjac.Have even the flower seen but if so ne small knolle flowering and makes seeds that is clear the tuber can normally look ^ ^
You can see it yeah also on the Fruchttstand my knowledge at Sauromatum is different.
Unfortunately, not the whole picture will be shown why know I also is not LR too wide.
With the nutrients is on interesannt you should enter more that however I think that the difference not will be so blatant.
LG Kevin

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Mittwoch, 26. November 2008, 16:35

Re: Blüte Abhängig von Alter?

I will indeed not unken Kevin but the greenish looks me really seeeehr long for a Konjac. ;-)
Fits but very well to the Typhonium.Das, sheet can certainly exclude last doubts.Gibts also a picture. : God:
MfG Volker

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Donnerstag, 27. November 2008, 02:27

Re: Blüte Abhängig von Alter?

This is not the spadix but stalk gg as stated the image is cut off something here ^ ^
konjak is really a million% ^ ^
LG Kevin

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Donnerstag, 27. November 2008, 10:58

Re: Blüte Abhängig von Alter?

Now this becomes clear Ahhhh.Jop, this is certainly a Konjac.:icon_gott:
On the first image, which was kinda not so clearly as Yes the inflorescence was already dry.
MfG Volker

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