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Frangipani

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Freitag, 1. Mai 2015, 20:21

Hmm since image was potty training from last year right after the Kauf.In, the plant when I bought I repotted it habe...aber I really don't.
She've now potted up last week, but was not larger than a piece of euro... But the new pot is only twice the size...
Enclosed nochdas image from the stalk, had probably intended with :icon_shocked: and it actually recovered.
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Freitag, 1. Mai 2015, 23:12

Hi Julia,

It seems something else than the IG and "nubicum", which I have - both the petiole drawing looks different; the patches are dark and not so many at my.
Are you looking at post # 5, 36 and 40...

By your nubicum photos of result sheets would be interesting; then you could look whether the drawing of the petiole is stable.

Happy growing, Bernhard.

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Montag, 14. September 2015, 08:37

Hello together,
have your Indian used giant sperm? 2 of my Indian flowered in the 8 have set seed. Worked for the first time this year with me. In the normal form, I have seeds every year.

The Indian giant I will in any case would look like.

Greetings
Andreas

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Montag, 14. September 2015, 10:11

Hi Andreas, my big IG has set no seed also when she has late flourished ultra...

I somehow can't find my alleged Nubicum...
I labeled much too bad anyway out of laziness, can bite me in the ass, but think up on a pot with small IGs and the possibly not nubicum I recognize probably once again all in the journal...

LG Julia

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Montag, 14. September 2015, 11:34

now, I'm very ducheinander. Have the normal venusums for many years in the garden, go over all on and blossom always. Have spread even to the neighbors. Which are good Hardy, keep coming back. 2 years ago I bought in ebay an Indian giant tuber. Which is different and 3 x the size of the petiole drawing. I've increasingly well on daughter tubers, wake now everywhere, stand out by your size. 50% of Indian giant I let the coming winter outside. Let's see if they are frosttollerant.

But what is nubicum a t. now?

Greetings Andreas

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Dienstag, 15. September 2015, 13:34

Well I want to know just :icon_frown:
have a garden fair by a trader who seemed really authentic (but you can know everything...)
a tuber sold get, which at that time had 1 leaf and that supposedly just a small permanent subspecies should be T. Nubicum...
If properly read to self or remember, Bernhard has a Nubicum which should be only another name for Indian giant...

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Dienstag, 15. September 2015, 15:22

Hello of Andreas,

Discussion of nubicum is at the beginning of this topic
Typhonium venosum in original condition?

and then there's still a topic directly to nubicum
Typhonium nubicum

The Indian giant, which I have received from the United States is phenotypically identical with the nubicum going back on a Dutch gardener
Here down z t nubicum:
: http://perkgroen.nl/Bladplanten.html or google translated
https://translate.Google.com/translate?h...ladplanten.html

Happy reading, Bernhard.

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Dienstag, 15. September 2015, 17:45

So is the Indian giant = nubicum?:icon_confused:

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Dienstag, 15. September 2015, 21:57

Hi tide flowers,.

Typhonium nubicum is there actually not (more)...

There were once Sauromatum nubicum

http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/Kew-186377

http://apps.Kew.org/WCSP/namedetail.do?name_id=186377

http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/Kew-186383

Sauromatum was eventually renamed Typhonium; therefore t has the name de Grône Teko probably nubicum.
And the t. nubicum by de Groene Teko giant of PlantDelightsNursery which have the plant from India (hence Indian giant) is phenotypically identically with the Indian.

I am therefore of the opinion that IG = nubicum is; the correct name should be rather Sauromatum venosum 'Indian giant'.

Eliminates confusion? ;)

Happy growing, Bernhard.

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Mittwoch, 16. September 2015, 17:14

Hi Bernard,.

If Sauromatum was eventually renamed in Typhonium, would it then be venosum 'Indian giant' not Typhonium or was Typh. been replaced by Sauromatum?
Otherwise, but everything is clear.

Dig otherwise happy.

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Mittwoch, 16. September 2015, 17:21

Hi tide flowers,.

There has been much confusion between these two genera.


Look here, I wrote the details:

Forget the name of the type


Greeting
Andreas

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Mittwoch, 16. September 2015, 17:21

Hi tide flowers,.

Typhonium and Sauraomatum are still different genera...

T is venosum now but Sauramatum means associated, clearly the genus Sauromatum venosum...
(venosum see down here at T.: http://www.aroid.org/genera/generapage.php?genus=typhonium )
I know not what has prompted the taxonomists in detail, you would have to read this in the literature (stands above the link to Typhonium), but...

Happy growing, Bernhard.

Edit: ooops, thanks Andreas... ;-)

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Donnerstag, 17. September 2015, 16:16

OHA, a steady back and forth. Well let's see what's there next

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Montag, 5. September 2016, 12:04

spätes Update für meine 'Indian Giant' und "nubicum" Mutterknollen

IG fans

last fall, I had neglected to send the post-harvest photos of my tubers, what I do now...

In the spring, so saw the tubers as shown in post #117 on page 6 of this issue and had a weight of about 9 kg including Cormels.
As announced had I the Cormels 2014 not removed and the bulbs bloom (post #128) and then eventually transplanted...

In the autumn 2015 it looked then at harvest:

Indian giant index.php? page = attachment & attachmentID = 3024 index.php? page = attachment & attachmentID = 3025 unfortunately I didn't take the total weight of the tubers due to lack of time, what would have possibly shown with how much mass increase rake is under my terms...

"nubicum" index.php? page = attachment & attachmentID 3026 =

Of the tubers I have transplanted the big spring in 90 L bucket; the plants are still in the journal
index.php? page = attachment & attachmentID 3031 = (left nubicum right IG) and I am curious, what they look like after the pulling - this year will weigh then again... ;-)

NL, IG should be so Hardy, what I can not report on my primary Cormels, walking always the compost; Here it is also some colder 40 km east of Hanover (USDA zone 7B (- 14.9 ° C to - 12.3 ° C) than in Beesd, where IG should be Hardy ( https://translate.google.com/translate?h...ladplanten.html - at the bottom))

I have planted yet last fall once a bulb weighing about 1 kg and thought that she had frozen; then came the flower but after the tubers wintered in the basement were all long since withered... index.php? page = attachment & attachmentID = 3029

At the time, the plant looks index.php? page = attachment & attachmentID = 3030
- and for them, it's in the fall: "I must again stay out... :icon_sadnew: "

Happy growing, Bernhard.

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Dienstag, 6. September 2016, 22:29

Hi as my watch in the bucket also like yours on fig. 5. can you say jeh more leaves from a corm weren't formed tubers are even greater! until now there 4 leaves per tuber

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Mittwoch, 7. September 2016, 10:01

Hello of mr Chiquita,

I would expect that - more leaf surface-> more photosynthesis-> more storage fabrics tuber =...

But I don't know if this has ever documented someone...

Happy growing, Bernhard.

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Donnerstag, 16. Februar 2017, 12:04

... das habe ich noch nie erlebt...

IG fans

for weighing I took then but not the time me in November at the harvest...

When I these days once a who had to clear two nubicum aside, much to me on that the tuber soft felt. Here the reason: index.php? page = attachment & attachmentID = 3254

Then have I gone scraped once all soft... index.php? page = attachment & attachmentID = 3255 index.php? page = attachment & attachmentID = 3256 index.php? page = attachment & attachmentID = 3257

The tuber was now a few days in the winter garden and then it is dried. index.php? page = attachment & attachmentID = 3258

Because the bud is not corrupted, I suspect that the tuber is normally drives - when I think about it, I have to report in a few weeks...

Happy growing, Bernhard

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Donnerstag, 16. Februar 2017, 19:32

Hi Bernard,.

I've had such tubers every autumn, always large tubers, never small.

All tubers with an intact bud started to grow, no matter how I had to scrub away large parts. Often, the form of such tubers was not around in the autumn.

I think the cause is low temperature. + 5 ° c seems to be the border eg. drop in temperature at night. Is the tuber the next day harvested most of the time nothing happens. However, the tuber in the soil remains, because the weather is warm again, the plant looks good and is still growing, I harvest lazy tubers. And they rot only in the winter quarters.

Most of the time, the bud is lazy. After a temperature fall you don't see that, because the bud from the leaf stalks is protected. One week I can wait with harvesting, then the buds lazy point is not too deep (max 1 cm). I can save the tip is still Wegscheiden and the tuber. After two weeks, it's too late.

Last fall I've harvested tentatively same tubers after the first fall of temperature. I found no damaged bulb. In the garage where she now looks okay, they already start to grow.

Greeting
Olvi

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Donnerstag, 16. Februar 2017, 19:56

So a dry bearing fracture, the fault, I've never experienced before. What is there not all...

Greeting
Andreas

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Samstag, 18. Februar 2017, 10:47

Hi Phillip,

interesting observations!
And that could very well be although I remember now no longer, whether here in the area last fall as a drop in temperature with subsequent warmer days actually took place. Since I apparently but (once again) on the last minute pure got the tubers, I think that scenario is probably true...

I must watch my other tubers once more whether including even a this is...

Happy growing, Bernhard.

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