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81

Montag, 9. April 2012, 09:40

Huh...

one of tubers has set the flower last night without warning.
The entire apartment stinks of horse manure and as if that were not enough,.
the "scent" also my face red made - allergic reaction!
Now lives the plant in the garage!

The flower is 55 cm high, measured from the bottom of the vase to the tip of the antenna.

Greeting Olvi

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Montag, 9. April 2012, 17:12

Hello Olvi,.

that someone allergic responds substances of Echsenwurz to the "scent", I hear the first time - hopefully it itches not Additionally; and hopefully the reaction goes back soon! Good improvement in any case!

Today tomorrow also a lovely fragrance from the winter garden, I but is still rather than... would describe with Cowpats with horse manure surprised me



The plant is 92 cm high and had to emigrate immediately on the porch...:icon_smilenew:

Happy flowering, Bernhard.

83

Montag, 9. April 2012, 18:59

Moin to all

So I have erstmal a somewhat depressing news, at least for me.
I used rum only a portion of my collection from the garden hut in the home basement to new year gehohlt.
I keep it always first there. Unfortunately, the insulation in the hut of nen knacks, so that it has actually inside frozen and that had in the Rhineland. ;)
You can you imagine what happened: well the half of my collection was, say, not more quite alive.:icon_frown:
Gone on it all my t. venosum/T.v are doing. Indian giant, half of my cellulose, including my former 13 kg bulb,.
the grade was running, some albus and yunnanensis.:icon_frown:
What I've taken previously were a small handful of Typhonium venosum Cormels, which few konjacs, and the luck all my konjac varieties (leo song, nightstick, dunnii) krausei and others had home.
Times watch that I again nen bissel may increase. I can slap me.:icon_explode:

Regards Luke

84

Mittwoch, 26. September 2012, 09:39

Hi Luke,.

I have already harvested my large IG bulb because the leaves have been literally destroyed by hail and rain:icon_mad_GREEN:

In March I've truncated simply all breeding tubers beginnings and eyes as you hit out at the 13.3.2011 in the thread. The wounds I allow to dry for a few days and then planted. This has worked well, the tuber looks nice, has grown strongly and has easily survived the "operation". I find a very good advice.

Many greetings
Olvi

The tuber now weighs 3050g.

85

Freitag, 22. März 2013, 16:51

Hello together

Today I got my IG tubers from the cellar. Since sowing, they are now pretty much exactly 1 year old. The largest bulb, which I've shown here, had a weight of 417 grams end of October. Now she weighs only 331 grams. The tubers I will again pot still next week and on the terrace. Am already curious as the tubers develop further until the autumn. Will continue to keep you.

In the boxes on the second picture still Gloriosa rothschildiana, Littonia modesta and two t. venosum tubers. I had to mid-January in the fridge the whole case because the beasts have started much too early with the shoot.:D

Many greetings

Martin
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  • T. venosum.JPG

86

Samstag, 23. März 2013, 19:27

Hello friends of IG,

With us the winter never gives up, in the garden, the snow cover is still 70.80 cm thick. Nevertheless, at the kitchen table for a week three big IG tubers and prepare for the summer. I'll cut off the flowers.

Unfortunately, I'm losing my largest tuber (3600g). From February I've wondered again and again where a sweet smell (has really good geduftet) comes into the garage but discovered nothing unusual. Only four where later I have seen, that the shelf of a it pink red liquid was flooded. I have the soft spot (safe 1/4 of the tuber) cut away but it did not help, it started again a few days later.

@Bernhard, how has gone further with your big IG tubers in the summer of 2012, you've sold probably not all on eBay? An update would be interesting.

Many greetings
Phillip

87

Dienstag, 26. März 2013, 11:50

Hi Phillip,

No, I of course not all at i-Bah in particular my biggest originals (IG and the supposed nubicum) not sold, of course.
I had just no leisure to weigh in the fall and to photograph what I but these days once will do...

Until then, Bernhard.

88

Freitag, 29. März 2013, 17:14

Hello

Inspired by Luke failed attempt I have baked a tuber with clay in the autumn, to test whether it will lose less weight as one without a coat. The weekend was the clay removed and weighed the tuber. This came out:

Weight 14.10. 2012und 24.3.2013
.............. 131 g... 122 g
.,,........... 135 g... 126 g weight without clay baked,
There is no difference, both have lost 9 g.

Something is probably wrong;
-I have normal 6.7 cm t.v. tubers taken, there was talk of major IG tubers in the Forum.
-The clay coat was so thin that he got anywhere large cracks after drying. Maybe must the mantle be thicker and stay always wet? Now, the liquid could certainly evaporate through the gaps in the sheath.
-The clay came from the river bottom of the summer house, perhaps the variety is not right.

The attempt has indeed fun but brought nothing new. Maybe I try with larger IG tubers in the fall.

Many greetings
Phillip
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Freitag, 29. März 2013, 18:21

Hello olvi
is even a nice try, but in the end this is but no matter whether the tubers lose a few ounces more or less. Is but only water loss, once it's in the ground fully she sucks up yet again. Is vertrocknungsgefahr but only in very small Cormels. The loss of strength, to keep really important substance in borders, only a cool storage helps, because it slows the breathing activity.

90

Dienstag, 2. April 2013, 15:33

Nice that t. only venosum blossoms venosum 'Indian giant' at a higher weight than the normal T.. Is this season that again after a sheet for my 800 g IG tuber, root approaches are also yet to see :icon_thumbs1: at least not late bloomer:D
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91

Freitag, 5. April 2013, 16:39

Hello together,

times a question in the back.

How big are T. venosum tubers maximum. And the 'Indian giant' are how big?

Bloom the 'Indian giant' really only from sizes as described by Marian?

Thank you - LG, Robert

92

Freitag, 12. April 2013, 15:13

update Frühjahr 2013

Fans of the Indian giant,

Here the State of things, I had no time in autumn to record data...

12.04.2013
4490 g index.php? page = attachment & attachmentID = 1244 index.php? page = attachment & attachmentID = 1245 index.php? page = attachment & attachmentID = 1246
Diameter 23 cm x 21 cm
Height 13.5 cm
3420 g without primary Cormels index.php? page = attachment & attachmentID = 1247 index.php? page = attachment & attachmentID = 1248
5 great Cormels and 7 small...

With astonishment I have must determine in the autumn that the tuber has chosen, make thick Cormels, rather than becoming the Big Mama.

If the cuts / breaks are dry, is not potted, in low-cost substrate from the hardware store, but something still biligeres:
Compost from the local landfill, more precisely by the Abfallvertwertung which make compost all organic waste and free is up to 1 m cubic to private individuals.
In the last Jahjr, I have even tried this compost and had them actually not much expected because the compost partly is an indefinable black mush, and you sure do not want to know, what because everything about the organic waste inside has migrated to.

This compost is but by high shares of wood, leaves etc. very coarsely structured and in the from pot the bulbs last fall I was amazed that the Wurzewachstum and also the increase in this substrate was considerably better than in low-cost Earth, that simply is not so well structured and not so structure stable due to the high proportion of black peat.

Happy growing, Bernhard.

93

Freitag, 12. April 2013, 15:24

dasselbe "in nubicum"

Kollenfans,

because it's so beautiful, here is the tuber which nubicum is once in Holland as Typhonium in circulation, but probably only an 'Indian giant'.

12.04.2013
5760 g index.php? page = attachment & attachmentID = 1249 index.php? page = attachment & attachmentID = 1251 index.php? page = attachment & attachmentID = 1250
ø 26 x 21 cm, h 16.5 cm


5060 g without Brutrknollen index.php? page = attachment & attachmentID = 1252 index.php? page = attachment & attachmentID = 1253 index.php? page = attachment & attachmentID = 1254
8 large, 2 small Cormels

Whether one can force the bulb by cutting away the eyes for the new primary Cormels rabid to only secondary growth of the tuber, must show up.

Happy growing, Bernhard.

94

Freitag, 12. April 2013, 16:05

Very nice large tubers, really amazing how big are the primary Cormels. You could even try to cultivate it in the great outdoors, you may have even better results.

95

Freitag, 12. April 2013, 16:52

Bernhard, these are really really thick Brummer! Congratulations! Let's see how much is this year with you in increase in it...;)
How much does the largest Cormel t. venosum 'IG' there on the screen?

I have transferred my t. venosum 'Indian giant' with exactly 700 g before a few days already. I think the pot has come slightly too big, but doing that I think nothing on this fellow:D

96

Samstag, 13. April 2013, 17:41

Hi Bernard,.

These are really beautiful tubers. And therefore just a few questions...

My tubers become larger so deeper cracks have it below or on the side. Somewhere here in the Forum it was said that the cause is probably irregular growth rate, which in turn is due to irregular fertilization. The tubers look beautiful around. Do you have an explanation, or is it just a coincidence?

Figure 2 the Nubicum post the bulb on the side has a well with a round stamp - what can be? Also have the same mean. I once thought that it the place where the pollen is released, which then migrates grow up to the page, but this may not be good for the old tuber is consumed by the new?

Greeting Phillip

97

Montag, 15. April 2013, 15:17

Hello of giant fans,

I am satisfied with the Brummern... :-)

@ Maria: 700 g weight, you'll get ran loose to the 3 kg - try but ' sometimes your konjac Fertigation... ;-) Maybe then even more is in there...

The largest "Cormel" IG has 447 g!


@ Phillip: for the shape of the bulb, I have actually no exact explanation.
I try, pour and fertilize regularly and evenly.
I would also imagine that in addition to the irregular fertilization also fluctuating water leads to cracks in the tubers.

Gigas I have observed in Amorphophallus once the following after the tubers for the shipment have been gerentet and then a few days in a plastic bag were parked. index.php? page = attachment & attachmentID = 1257
I learned then by Wilbert Hetterscheid, this can happen if you take the tubers in full growth of the substrate, where he witnessed mainly on ochroleucus. It was noteworthy that the tuber according to his forecast is easily continued after she was again been potted.


You Yes again and again as an attentive observer yourself out :icon_winkgrin: !
I also often observed this deepening of tubers, but I have made my worry about the origin.

Perhaps you're with your adoption, but not wrong that is the place of the inflorescence.
Namely taking that connect the "nubicum" I as alleged eye for the new primary Cormels saw and cut out, actually are (fig. 1 and Fig. 6 the nubicum post) and then sees that the last year (big) Cormels under (!) the level of the well are (Figure 2), already in the image would fit.
This would mean that the new bulb is formed under the new sheet (what it indeed does), but not the complete old tuber consume or not consume the eyes, from which the new (big) Cormels form.
If you look at the images under the assumption, that strikes me actually quite plausible.

I will soon find the time, I'll ask if once in the aroid-L; Perhaps there is a botanist who aüßern can cause.

Happy growing, Bernhard.

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Montag, 15. April 2013, 18:51

Hi Bernard,.

I look forward to the response of the Aroid society.

As a suggestion, I've attached a picture from 2008, the year when the summer came to us not. The tubers were not ready in the autumn with the growth, Cormels were the color of white or red - there is no mature Cormels.

It was five years ago, I can no longer remember the tubers in the picture were as large and not whether they had an inflorescence. Sure, the tuber right has flowering size.
So what I'm saying.
In the picture it looks as the new bulbs would save nothing but they eat through from top to bottom.
Perhaps is "Eating behaviour" different with a tuber which had a pollen?
Tubers of normal form can be seen in the picture.
And the idea that IG(Nubicum) and normal form have different "feeding behaviour" would be even more interesting.

Many greetings
Phillip
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99

Sonntag, 5. Mai 2013, 17:42

Hello

the flower of my "IG" has opened today.
The tuber 3.2 kg has weighed into the autumn, the flower is 102 cm high.

I acquired the tuber with a weight of 1 kg last year on ebay by Bernhard.
Shortly thereafter, she had also pushed a flower, was however still not quite as big as it is now.

Greetings
Ronny
»ronnyede« hat folgendes Bild angehängt:
  • T. venosum 'Indian Giant' 1.JPG

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Sonntag, 5. Mai 2013, 19:09

Hello Ronny,.

because I can smell my (former) baby Yes scaling...:icon_winkgrin:
Happy growing - bringing you the 5-kg mark sure will crack :icon_thumbs1: ,.

Bernhard.

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