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Samstag, 7. November 2009, 00:13

Re: Typhonium venosum im Originalzustand?

Hi Bernhardt

bin speechless.
and sach only:
Respect


-Grüne Grüße-
Dixon

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Samstag, 7. November 2009, 10:17

Re: Typhonium venosum im Originalzustand?

Moin Bernhard
I CALL THAT TIMES NE HEALTHFULLY. And even t.venosum.
First of all with what you have fertilized nuclear waste?:D
My biggest has this year grad times less than 1 pound and 11 cm diameter.
Next year will combat fertilization, but with construction buckets and Hakaphos swie full of sonneab drove out move on.

Greeting Lukas

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Samstag, 7. November 2009, 10:49

Re: Typhonium venosum im Originalzustand?

Hello Dixon,.
Yes, I was also somewhat speechless - look, how long that will continue so.
I will they probably in the spring not flower can be and then further field...:-)

Hi Luke,.
No, no nuclear and I live also outside the ground water basin of the ACEs.
BTW: On my hands I leave only water and Palmolive!
Similarly, only water and horse manure comes to my 'Indian giant'....

No, just kidding on the edge: was fertilized with
Nitrophoska 15+5+20(+2+8) COMPO/BASF's perfect
Special chemical fertilizers with magnesium, sulphur and trace elements for horticulture and special crops. Contains Kali as potassium sulphate.
That regularly combined to feel, with an open and regular water supply;
Location of partial shade

The size is but probably not with the normal form of t. venosum achieved, but only with 'Indian Giant' or t. nubicum (Note: nubicum there are not as described, I rather suspect that it is the same clone/root).

Happy growing,
Bernhard.

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Samstag, 7. November 2009, 15:44

Re: Typhonium venosum im Originalzustand?

I am speechless Bernhard. : God:
I call this once a great harvest.
MfG Volker

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Samstag, 7. November 2009, 21:00

Re: Typhonium venosum im Originalzustand?

Every time I see the image I erblasse in envy.
What would this only for a bloom in the next year. (if you would have them bloom)
I bet at least 1 m high.
Afterwards you crack still nen record: Bernhard S. typhonium record with 2 m.:D
And only that page, perhaps even titanum limits;-)
(End sinner small ausschweifung)

Greeting Lukas

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Sonntag, 27. Juni 2010, 19:32

Re: Typhonium venosum im Originalzustand?

Moin

Well, what makes the monster bulb, how big is the leaf?

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Mittwoch, 4. August 2010, 22:28

Re: Typhonium venosum im Originalzustand?

here my little plantation!
index.php? page = attachment & attachmentID = 118

I'll try, some to put in the spring in the forest behind us. 've read that she easily survived the winter in North Rhine-WESTPHALIA and Hesse.

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Mittwoch, 4. August 2010, 23:36

Re: Typhonium venosum im Originalzustand?

Quoted from "heli"

I'll try, some to put in the spring in the forest behind us. 've read that she easily survived the winter in North Rhine-WESTPHALIA and Hesse.


Just that you should make about to be, it is forbidden to use non-native species outside of parks and gardens for good reason. In North Rhine-WESTPHALIA, the competent authorities have with already enough to fight flora and fauna because they displace the native species from gewilderter. The worst for me is the Spanish slug and the Japanese Balsam.
Gruß Achim
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northwestern part of Germany -
elevation 42 m
yearly precipitation 791,5 mm - climate zone 8a
sunshine duration 1.443,3 hours - mean annual temperature 8,2 °C

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Sonntag, 8. August 2010, 16:58

Re: Typhonium venosum im Originalzustand?

I, achim knows this.
I don't think that you will be dangerous to compare kann.und with snails?
the t.v.. I let in the garden. not may I then also!

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Sonntag, 26. September 2010, 08:08

Re: Typhonium venosum im Originalzustand?

yesterday I've dug out giant the indian! This is phenomenal!
from a single 2 cm knolle, one has grown tochterknollen 13 cm and 10. the great has 420 g!
index.php? page = attachment & attachmentID = 119

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Sonntag, 26. September 2010, 08:55

Re: Typhonium venosum im Originalzustand?

Hi Heli,.

Congratulations for the giant tuber.
My need probably 1... 2 Weeks before I can harvest them.
Gruß Achim
--------------------------------------
northwestern part of Germany -
elevation 42 m
yearly precipitation 791,5 mm - climate zone 8a
sunshine duration 1.443,3 hours - mean annual temperature 8,2 °C

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Sonntag, 26. September 2010, 21:54

Re: Typhonium venosum im Originalzustand?

T.venosum flowering economic size. I will my expected in a week from the pot get. This was at the 4 cm put times see how big the tuber is now.

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Donnerstag, 7. Oktober 2010, 18:24

Re: Typhonium venosum im Originalzustand?

heard today on FB that she now but in sauromatum are renamed! know what da who?

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Donnerstag, 7. Oktober 2010, 21:19

Re: Typhonium venosum im Originalzustand?

Typhonium venosum is the correct name and Sauromatum venosum is name synonym. : p

wool

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Donnerstag, 13. Januar 2011, 10:47

Re: Typhonium venosum im Originalzustand?

Dear friends of tuber,

Spring 2010:
FG 2980 g, 24 x 22 cm, height 13 / 15
index.php? page = attachment & attachmentID = 124


Summer 2010:
In the large tubs of 'Indian Giant' - in the bucket "Typh." "nubicum", I believe that indentisch with 'Indian Giant':
index.php? page = attachment & attachmentID = 120


Fall 2010:
FG 5750 g, 27 x 24.5 cm x 16 (H)(inkl._Reste_von_alter_Knolle,_9_Brutknollen_(4/9_abtrennbare_Groesse))
index.php? page = attachment & attachmentID = 121


and because it's so beautifully reflects the size....
index.php? page = attachment & attachmentID = 122


Happy growing, Bernhard.

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Freitag, 21. Januar 2011, 14:10

Re: Typhonium venosum im Originalzustand?

Tuber fans,

I had venosum 'Indian giant' hinted at once as a possible explanation for the size of Typhonium, that the clone is tetraploid possibly in contrast to the small (diploid) normal form.
By Tony Avent (plant delights nursery) still the information that 'Indian Giant' is not a clone, but a trunk, i.e. a population of phenotypically uniform plants, was that generatively was increased.

I have been in the penultimate raise the normal form, my 'Indian giant'-clone and examines the form nubicum used under t. using flow cytometry.
Briefly explain how the DNA content of the nuclei is measured with this method after staining of DNA. The measurements are then presented in a frequency distribution with the first peak represents the DNA content of the nuclei in the G1 phase. This is equivalent to cells with the "normal" complement of chromosomes in somatic cells. The second, smaller peak indicates the DNA content of the cells that are G2 phase; the cells have the double DNA content after the replication of DNA so until separating the cell.

The graphics nubicum below show the results of the measurements of T.v. 'Laos' (my clone with the normal, small leaves and tubers), t.v.. 'Indian Giant' and the t. from top to bottom.

index.php? page = attachment & attachmentID = 127

index.php? page = attachment & attachmentID = 126


index.php? page = attachment & attachmentID = 125


The three clones differ (as part of the measurement inaccuracies) in the DNA content and therefore probably have the same Ploidiestufe.
Since I have made no chromosome count, I can say nothing about the number of chromosomes; According to the literature she should when t. venosum 2n = 2 x = 26 be.
If 'Indian Giant' had the double Ploidiestufe of the normal form, G1-peak would have to be 100 and the G2-peak about channel such as channel 200.

Happy growing, Bernhard.

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Dienstag, 8. März 2011, 08:58

Re: Typhonium venosum im Originalzustand?

Moin tuber fans,

I once asked my 'Indian giant' on the scales:
2.3.10: 4710 g with bloom; 4340 g without flower; 4200 without primary Cormels; Flower bud 80 cm
I wanted to weaken more the bulb by the flower, had she but certainly better already truncated because she weighed already almost 400 g.
Here the bulb before the feast and the Interior to layer....
»Mr. Titanum« hat folgende Bilder angehängt:
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  • P1020775.JPG
  • P1020771.JPG

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Dienstag, 8. März 2011, 09:53

Re: Typhonium venosum im Originalzustand?

Quoted from "Mr.. Titanum"

I wanted to weaken more the bulb by the flower, had she but certainly better already truncated because she weighed already almost 400 g.


Moin,

I think you can let the flower approach also off at this stage, because the tuber has invested already a lot of strength in the bud.
Gruß Achim
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northwestern part of Germany -
elevation 42 m
yearly precipitation 791,5 mm - climate zone 8a
sunshine duration 1.443,3 hours - mean annual temperature 8,2 °C

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Dienstag, 8. März 2011, 10:57

Re: Typhonium venosum im Originalzustand?

Moin Achim,
Since you're certainly right - but I wanted to spare this year the original cow cake scent me...;-)
Happy growing, Bernhard.

Philipp

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Dienstag, 8. März 2011, 19:47

Re: Typhonium venosum im Originalzustand?

Hi Bernard,.

It is a pity would cares what proportions the blossoming of so a giant bulb would have reached me. Last year already my 700 g tuber has managed a 80 cm flower, yours would have been perhaps much larger.

The results of your investigation sound for me a bright. According to the statements made by Tony Avent Indian giant Yes doesn't seem to be have been bred, but also somewhere would have to occur in nature, and because it happens so rarely that of a normally diploid plant a tetraploid form established itself.
It would be interesting, now, to produce a tetraploid mutants from the Indian giant. I see it before me, a Typhonium of the A. konjac is in the shade! : lach dead:

VG Philipp

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