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I thought I already am doing what wrong. Grow my L. americanus in a 20 litre bucket.
They are three years now, but the leaves are up to 15 cm long. They have become each year approx. 5 cm longer.

They spend the winter in the bucket pulled up in my garage as they endure no more Frost as ca-15 degrees Celsius.

Greeting Olvi

Hi Simone,.
in which Earth is your L. camtschatcensis?
My has Chlorose(?), in any case yellow leaves with green veins, and I've tried already sooo much:
Lime has helped short - then it not is rather worse blue grain not, lawn fertilizer (nitrogen not weighted), Eisenchelat-.
Mine is out there and as 4 to 5 years old and mickert, although he has also (small) flourished last year.
> more lime? Or plant plants in acid (Rhododendron-) Earth?
Ãœbrigens: Is moist and half (more: three quarters) shady, but not marshy.

Have you or anyone else an idea like it draws large, vigorous green plants?

Greeting,
Detlef

Hello det,.

What an Earth in which are the plants?

Can you determine the pH of the soil or water in the bucket?

MfG,
Bernhard.

Hi Bernard,.

Thank you, that you make the thoughts of you. Here the specs:
Earth, location:

Planted in heavy, clayey/loamy soil; He will be profound.

pH: Background: I had thrown before about 10 days a handful dolomite limestone on the plant, crumbs of which can still be seen and not entirely met.
Currently only "universal indicator paper" available is me.
So: Ground something relaxed and made wet and paper on it:
With little dolomite crumbs around pH 6, very similar with more (on the other side of the plant), with a tendency to pH 7.
In addition the grass of Parnassus has already significantly green - blue corn and grass fertilizer grains remains were (from about 6 weeks ago) also still be seen.
Now, I'm curious to see what you write to my Polypragmasie.

Lysichiton are also compatible with salt and I can still more generous deal with fertilizers?

I photographed the tragedy still - snails have their share...

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Greeting,
Detlef

Dear Simone!

Very nice photo of a beautiful plant!

Question: What hardness has your tap water, or how much is the calcium salt content?

Note: Dried horse dung - is not a fertilizer?
I mean: A pretty substantive even! ;-)

Greeting,

Detlef

Dear Simone

pH is one thing ("Acidity" very, very aggregated) and already quite specifically, the most earth lie between 5.5 and 6.5 (so slightly acidic due to the humus) and for the Lysichiten the pH - is value probably not soo critical - at least not in the yellow-flowering American relationship, which I do not own.

Lime salt content / water hardness is that I'm more interested in:

Indications: For which hardness range uses you laundry detergent usually 5 fields (can be distinguished see printed on the packaging - from 0 to 4)?
How fast (normal) SOAP from the skin washes away - long slick (soft water) or with little ("hard") water it is already gone (in standing water in the sink after as many whitish flakes of lime SOAP in soft water few or none, only the General SOAP turbidity) - in different areas to make since other experiences. You look easy: http://de.Wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasserhärte

We have very hard water, range 4 for laundry, more ca 24° German hardness - much harder is hardly.

Hardness is very important in plants, or when the irrigation water: Daturen love hard water, azaleas, the most orchids or citrus fruit enter it in the long term.
... and my Lysichiton I knows it just not and you could provide a first clue, because your plant is certainly balanced feeds than mine.

The local water company provides information, often will find overviews of water hardness on the Internet, with us that looks like this: http://www.badoeynhausen.de/index.php?id=441

Greeting,

Detlef

Hello det,.

at high pH, iron, which can be absorbed by the plant only as 2-quality Eisenion of the soil solution is no longer available, it is then available as 3-quality Fe-ion; also: Precipitation as Fe-phosphate; In addition is available then much bicarbonate in the ground which hinders access to the Fe (known as "lime Chlorose")

pH 7 is too high; so no more limestones.
In response you could fertilize with sour-looking fertilizers (Rododendrodünger etc.).

If you can all get you an iron fertilizer to exists in which the Fe in chelated (complex-bound).
Sequestreen (Fe-EDDHA, a ring-shaped Chelation that is very stable) would be ideal or Fetrilon (Fe-EDTA, kettenförmiger chelator).
As leaf fertilizer gespritz, it should work very quickly against iron deficiency.

The image I would put some worm grain...;-)

MfG,
Bernhard.

Hi Bernard,.

I got through already everything (?), the plant is so also already 5 years old and I would have liked much bigger and "branched" them in time.

So, have been tried: rhododendron fertilizer - something further away are also rhododendrons, Oscorna, compost, the expensive Fe EDDHA with the charming advantage allegedly also at higher pH do still iron plants available to.

Only a liming led again to really fed up with green foliage, but according to the motto: "Lime makes rich fathers, but poor sons" was the chlorosis this year even worse than the last. I imagine me that still anything (manganese, boron, whatever) is missing or Lysichiton prefers just alkalischeren soil...

My next attempt - if of you in the Forum no: kopfklatsch: - note is - would be to give a spurenelement-rich (custody) fertilizer in the form of this resin beads one at that. Once I pour with the Eisenchelatlösung, thanks for the reminder...

With the snail grain you're right, it's only gone from us...

Greeting,

Detlef:??:

Hello det,.

If you have tried so much, I would personally suggest an other modifications before the micro repository fertilizers:

Change of substrate (+ worm grain...:-))

I have seen even a Lysichitonbestand in Copenhagen in a small Botanical Garden, class looked huge leaves and many flowers.

Lysichiton to (lt rareplants) very fertile ground like, so I it with TKS (peat culture substrate; possibly when the gardener get to) or unit Earth + moorland peat would try.

Good luck,
Bernhard.

Hi Bernard,.

rareplants speaks of "any..." "soil", and here:

http://davesgarden.com/PF/go/54099/ I headed on the wrong track "pH (almost) no matter".

On your tip out I will but share the Earth and make it clearly humoser, for the rest, I now - only have found with other search, mostly directly or indirectly speaks of "acid", others mention out. Sour I have found there:

http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswik….php/Lysichiton
http://www.BBC.co.UK/gardening/plants/PL…pages/513.shtml
http://www.backyardgardener.com/plantname/pda_0bd4.html

Thank you and regards,

Detlef

Hello det,.

actually, I meant rareplants.de instead of rareplants. *...;-)

http://www.rareplants.de/shop/prodtype.a…ecordPosition=1

Consider us but once up to date...

MfG,
Bernhard.

Hi Bernard,.

It's done:

Have the plant carefully with the digging fork planted, largely free from Earth liable to, dug a planting hole in the clay and so the whitewashed Earth removed, a mixture of mature compost, coarse peat and a little sand made and filled the hole thus. Approx. 40-50 l were so exchanged.

The Lysichiton was reinstated and properly dispersed - let's wait's.

Greeting,
Detlef

Yes, Simone, planted!

About 5 or 6 years, since I get sent as a seedling from a consignor have.

It has survived every so frosty winter out there and also flourished last year - the same with 2 buds.
A shaky seedling is entered at some point, after I had put him into a pot - he never came back after a winter...

Grows on the north side of the House in the half to three-quarter shadow in very wet soil. In the immediate vicinity also Darmera peltata, grow which further extend, and usually also in the swamp.

Actually I do not plan, extra apply a marshy patch or a pond - must pour halt in dry weather, the soil is always moist to wet. Take your contribution to heart and pour more...

Greeting,
Detlef

Hi Simone, Hi Bernhard,.

the soil of acidification has helped doll! All leaves were green this year, even after the action in the last year of success became noticeable (in a few weeks)! Thank you again! Out there, I pour with rain water which is collected in a cistern sunken into the ground.

Many regards,

Detlef