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Dienstag, 8. Mai 2007, 17:30

Drei mal Pech mit Typhonium venosum

Hello

I bought last year three big Typhoniumknollen with flower buds me, all three thrived very well last year and formed many primary Cormels.

And now for the bad luck:

Already in the winter two of my three large Typhoniumknollen of pests were attacked, first there were small ca 1 cm long maggots that ate holes in the tubers, when I took the maggots the holes grew still further in depth.

When I brought the largest tuber from the cellar now in spring a tiny only 14 cm wide flower came out, which surpassed thus just the diameter of the tuber.
The eigeartige this was only the flower before the blossoming vertrocknete and so after the blossoming exuded a stench.

I then placed the other two large tubers in the gardens where they now stand.

Recently, I noticed however that was a hole in the shoot of one of the two tubers and the flower bud has been gnawed off up to the peduncle of any animal.
The comic it was but that the Blatttrieb which is Yes immediately next to the flower bud, since they both were still in a bract, was not angerühr.

My last hope to experience even a Typhoniumblüte this year is now in the garden and is my last large tuber.
It grows at the moment but also only still sparsely, but shows no damage.

If anyone has some tips what I next year should - do better just to.

With kind regards
Stefan

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Dienstag, 8. Mai 2007, 18:23

So, if you have such problems with pests in the garden, I would suggest you to cultivate the remaining bulb in a large pot.
I do so. At least a tuber (usually the largest and most beautiful) is not freely planted in order to have a backup for any pest infestation.
With Typhonium you to put then in the following year enough breed again a few in the garden.
Is but believe first year with tubers in the gardens. I'm just very careful.
Gruß rooman

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Mittwoch, 9. Mai 2007, 14:59

Hello

I have cultivated the plant has always been in the pot, the pests have already occurred in the basement.
Also, only the large tubers were affected, the many small Cormels were not affected.

With kind regards
Stefan

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Mittwoch, 9. Mai 2007, 16:07

Oh, sorry Stefan. Since, I've forgotten the first part of your posts smoothly again in the heat of the letter. ;)

Somehow, that listens to when your tubers were infected already from the start with something. May be you should pour prophylactic an insecticide at least for those in the pot. You'd then be at least insect technology on the safe side.
Gruß rooman

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Mittwoch, 9. Mai 2007, 18:19

Hello

may be the odd is that only two of the three large tubers were infected even though they had exactly same conditions - but, and even the large tubers were affected, not the small, even though they are in the same pot.

This is a mystery me everything.

With kind regards
Stefan

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Samstag, 12. Mai 2007, 17:03

Something similar has happened in my last winter.

When I started in early April it to pot I've must determine that
many of the large tubers are so dry that they have no weight.
It looks as if they had only begun to grow and would be away dried them suddenly.
I've broken some and they have all Loecher(links_indem_Bild_zwei_Loecher).

The right bulb is shrunk but is still alive I think since it has a little weight.
I think she would start to grow and behave told like Stefan.
I have kept my tubers in three crates and no Cormel is attacked.
For several years, I think tubers in the same winter quarters. The tubers are all grown in pots.

An interesting observation is that only tubers from which I the old ground (the remains of the old CORM)
have not removed in the fall are gone kaput. Primary Cormels have no old ground.
I have not checked in the winter my tubers and don't know therefore whether worms at work were.

Stefan, was the old ground off the tubers that were infested with you in the winter?

Greeting Olvi


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Samstag, 12. Mai 2007, 17:48

Hello

Yes the old ground was still off,
but I've had all tubers in the old soil, the primary Cormels.
And as said only two of the three large tubers are affected and no primary Cormels.
I had but three large tubers jewils in three different vessels in which only the Earth from the pot in which they were located.
I had left the primary Cormels in the soil in which they are grown, they were also in the same container as the mother tuber.

The infected tubers but just looked like yours.

Since there seems to be a "Typhonium-nut root Eater" probably.

I have again today, the most infected tuber (which is where dried flowering) dug out and seen that it makes roots, so still it seems to be what.

With kind regards
Stefan

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Freitag, 18. Mai 2007, 16:39

So for me it was Melanotus most likely beetle larva of the variety castanipes, unfortunately I have the German name
but not found are 1 cm long, yellow, shiny, hard larvae.

I have found a reasonable picture of the larva, but if anyone knows a good site on the Web it can be yes a link.

Here a similar larva

http://wibe.ath.cx/imgforum/viewtopic.ph…456f85687307f32 and here of the beetle

http://www.Elateridae.com/zobrbruk.php?id=3574

I've seen this yellow larva often in the compost and the Spitalacker. Now it has dropped a me, that I was in the autumn when cleaning
the tubers have seen this in the root box. I have simply discarded it without to decide something.

According to the Internet, they are omnivorous but they are attacking root vegetables with fondness and retard in the root zone.
I think that some of the old tuber floors which I had not removed were infested by the beetle.

Since only one; helps Tubers are never stored with the old ground.

Greeting Olvi

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Samstag, 19. Mai 2007, 10:37

Hello

This larva was not determined, because that were small and white with me, like a mealworm it not looked determined.
I have not seen the beetle, but I think that it was fly larvae.

With kind regards
Stefan

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Donnerstag, 19. Juli 2007, 18:11

@ Olvi:
The larva to which you have linked is called in german "Wireworm", the associated beetles: "Click beetle", you look for in Wikipedia:


http://de.Wikipedia.org/wiki/Drahtwurm

@ Stefan:
Can it have perhaps been the larva of a thick black rüsslers? Are white head brownish, slightly plump and only at, similar to see a Engerling in mini.
The Wikipedia has only the beetles, but enter "Weevil" in the Google image search, immediately a few larvae / maggots come.

Greeting,

Detlef

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Freitag, 20. Juli 2007, 09:30

Hello

Unfortunately I can remind me of the larvae.

At least all tubers have survived, one will probably soon put a fourth hand.



I have now a different guess:


The great Typhoniumknollen have a very rough surface covered with cracks, but the small have a pretty smooth surface.

The large are therefore more susceptible to Putrescence, if they are in a damp basement.
Then the eggs of the larvae hatch, as they sense moisture by the Putrescence.
Because they have to eat anything else they make produced of the tuber.

With kind regards
Stefan

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Samstag, 12. Januar 2008, 20:13

Erfolgsbericht

Hello Sauromatum friends

As you might can remember I have lost several large tubers by wire worm attacks a year ago in the winter quarters.

In the harvest in the fall of 2007, I have seen such worms again. Therefore, I basically removed the remains of the old Corm of the bottom of the root of all harvested tubers and washed them then still in warm water with a defunct Chinosoltablette.

To have even more security, I have each bulb individually in an own plastic (yogurt cups, etc.) currently in storage.

Until now, they all look just fine, have not lost any weight, and begin to even slow drive.
Only a bulb seems to be dead, it is dry, slightly shrunk together and dissected light.

The difference with last winter is pretty good. I just hope that I am not too early
But if the situation changes I can report again.

With kind regards
Olvi

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Samstag, 12. Januar 2008, 20:56

Hello

the old tubers have I also removed, as well as the new washed.
I have it but all adjacent. So far nothing has happened.

All power, a pretty strong, it is probably that which last year has also been > driven.

When the harvest I have no bugs discovered.

Last year have I but also the old tubers drang leaving and that I move the blame that two of the three tubers were almost eaten up.

Before last year, the infection has occurred but only in the spring.

With kind regards
Stefan

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