Pflege von Dracunculus vulgaris

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Dienstag, 16. Januar 2007, 11:54

Hello

I have ordered me times Dracuculus vulgaris seeds. I have never had this genus. Has anyone one of you?

Needed because times care instructions, so what for Earth, sun/shade, hibernation, fertilizing, and and and.

Hope you can help me.

Gruss Stephan

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Dienstag, 16. Januar 2007, 16:50

Hi Stephan,.

I have a few days ago get a bloom-enabled bulb of this kind and of course immediately searched for cultural notes. So it looks like it is a plant that is very easy to care, said she needs the following conditions:

-Site in the outdoor or greenhouse, can be planted also (allegedly even cold, avoiding congestion wetness)
-Much fertiliser
-Loose substrate
-Sun or part shade

Reportedly reaches a height of Leafs of up to 2 m under optimum conditions and get flowers with an over 80 cm long spadix.

I'll keep just like them as Amorphophallus konjac, you can incorrectly do probably not much there.

I hope good luck with the seeds, notifying us about the germination rate...

MfG Philipp

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Mittwoch, 17. Januar 2007, 09:49

Yes since I'm curious, I've got several years ago tubers. I still have one. I've got at the time the instruction to put it in the spring in the Earth and to keep moist and frost-free winter about the pots, but nothing works.
For me, they come only in the autumn (Oct/Nov) in the garage to the Vorscheinen where they are naturally attacked by all sorts of spider mites and other mow, is clear because the plants at a few light, are too weak.
In the spring have I out put always the pots in the garden where the tubers are hiding throughout the summer in the Earth. Have never seen a flower.
It seems to me that only at lower temperatures the paper developed.

My last tuber has now begun to grow. The White tip just the Earth's surface break through. The pot is in the dark basement at approx. + 5 ° C, and the Earth has had the entire autumn water. Now, I hope the tuber withstand it until spring.

I have Ãœbrigens, the same behavior on my Arum italicum.
Tough guys?

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Mittwoch, 17. Januar 2007, 16:45

Hi olvi2004,

are you sure that you will really D. vulgaris have? The behavior of your plants listens to more canariensis after Dracunculus, which grows in winter and in summer has its rest.

In the Arum italicum which is quite normal, if you want that they only drive in the spring you will need to Hibernate it out there. I don't know however if they survive that with you in Helsinki, in Germany, they are at least similar to easy maculatum as the local Arum.

MfG Philipp

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Donnerstag, 18. Januar 2007, 09:39

Hello

I have unearthed one of packaging in which the tubers came up to me and on it is Dracunculus vulgaris. The tubers are from the Netherlands (company Holland Park). It is claimed that they flower during the three summer months July/Aug / Sept on the front side, should be, etc planted with roots down...

Tulips, hyacinths and similar bulbs that are sold at hardware stores are so prepared at the breeder that they equally wonderful flower. Then you can throw away them because they a second time no longer make it.

Is it possible that something with Dracunculus and similar tubers is practiced which are sold in the supermarket in a glossy package? This would perhaps explain why they now do not. Well, I can assume that with me at the first attempt (weather conditions...) something wrong gone – I can no longer remember.

Greeting Olvi

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Donnerstag, 18. Januar 2007, 09:50

Hmh, listen to really to D.canariensis.
Here something to do this:

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100 (150) cm, Baranda Dragon Aronstab is a pure white, narrow spathe and yellow spadix about multiple, rough cut, bright green leaves on a purely green stem. Found in humusreichen, part shade to sunny locations of the Western Canary Islands, in nature the way has become quite rare, it is already extinct in Madeira. Plants are winter green and drag a completely during the summer period of rest. The type is sufficiently Hardy; in Central Europe for a sunny spot in a cool, frost-free greenhouse or Conservatory in a winter minimum of about 5Â°C and careful water gifts. USDA zone of 9/10. V-VI.

And here to D.vulgaris:

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several split leaves spotted trunks and an increasingly high and wide, dark wine red, almost black spathe and spadix is 100 (170) cm, Mediterranean Dragon Aronstab. At home in the Eastern Mediterranean area in stony, part shade places with much moisture in the winter and spring and long drought in the summer. The large tubers protect against back wet in winter by a deep planting (15 cm) and an additional sand or gravel objects to improve the water permeability. Best frost-free sub culture for two years before the dormant tubers are planted in the summer to the final location in the garden. USDA zone of 7. VI-VII.

Perhaps the Dutch have since what vertausch?
Yes know drugs are not good

Gruss Stephan

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Donnerstag, 18. Januar 2007, 11:17

Hi Stephan

Njaa... the image on the packaging shows already a beautiful purple/red Blühte.

But your text... "much moisture in the winter and spring and long drought in the summer" makes me unsure.

We were the summer until 2005 never dry. It was raining more so much that you cannot talk about a long dry season. The Earth is actually only after the pots in the garage in the fall became dry.

So, if the tubers really so sensitive to water, I must try probably in the summer with a kind of Ãœberdachung of the pots.

Whether then @ Philpps "just keep as Amorphophallus konjac" to success leads method...? That would be in the broadest sense what I have been unconsciously tried?

Greeting Olvi

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Donnerstag, 18. Januar 2007, 11:58

So I can help you since no further. Never had the genus.
(So yes my question 8)
Hope the seeds are coming.

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Donnerstag, 18. Januar 2007, 20:39

Hmm, strange. In the Internet the plant is always called a very easy to keep, unusually cold or very attractive and spectacular. Nowhere is negative feedback. So, as the author of the page has simply put them in the garden and seems no special effort to operate out of casting:
http://www.paghat.com/voodoolily.html

I will now just wait what will become of my tuber and if I put it somewhat through the summer. I cannot play back also only that with regard to the culture, what I've read on the Internet.

MfG Philipp

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Donnerstag, 15. Februar 2007, 18:17

Meine Überwinterung der Dracunculus vulgaris

Hello

so I have my Dracunculus in a square big plant tubs that are available throughout the year in the garden vulgaris.

Live in Normandy about 30 km from the Atanltik station, in the period from October to February it rains here very much, and if it frostet times then between-1 ° C to - 3 ° C this year we had sometimes-8 ° C. I have it in ordinary potting soil, no drainage and nothing. instead but in the summer of dear in the Penumbra, because if the Sun too much will pop, then quickly yellow the leaves.
You with me to proliferate like weeds, bloom every year and are actually very easy to maintain.

Greeting
Simone

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Sonntag, 18. Februar 2007, 08:31

Re: Meine Ãœberwinterung der Dracunculus vulgaris

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so I have my Dracunculus in a square big plant tubs that are available throughout the year in the garden vulgaris.
Live in Normandy about 30 km from the Atanltik station, in the period from October to February it rains here very much, and if it frostet times then between-1 ° C to - 3 ° C this year we had sometimes - 8 ° C. I have it in ordinary potting soil, no drainage and nothing. instead but in the summer of dear in the Penumbra, because if the Sun too much will pop, then quickly yellow the leaves.
You with me to proliferate like weeds, bloom every year and are actually very easy to maintain.

Greeting
Simone

Hi Simone,.

during the mild winters with you, it is no surprise that the D. vulgaris grows like weeds. Here in Hamburg we must protect a little this plant in winter. I think my plant in a 1930's, which stands in a frost free greenhouse. My drives just that if it is greater, I set an image on request.

Greeting
Ernie

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Sonntag, 18. Februar 2007, 11:45

Hello Ernie,.

you're probably with the climate right, me all Araceae can be more out there in the summer, rooms she only in October or early November in. Except the Arisaemas, Typhoniums and the Dracunculus which must remain outside

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Even my Alocasia macrorrhiza I am only at about 10 ° C pure, that her accounts for nothing. She diligently brings the winter of their children, has a very thick trunk and huge leaves, is approx. 1.60 metres high at the moment and has flourished last year the first time.

My whole Dracunculus tubers are also just out, she had to plant but apart as the pots were heavily durchwurzelt and tubers are mutually pestered. My tubers all have a diameter of at least 6 cm and half a meter long and again many children were the root of it.
You very reliably bloom every year, has flourished even your?

Many greetings
Simone

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Sonntag, 18. Februar 2007, 12:55

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My whole Dracunculus tubers are also just out, she had to plant but apart as the pots were heavily durchwurzelt and tubers are mutually pestered. My tubers all have a diameter of at least 6 cm and half a meter long and again many children were the root of it.
You very reliably bloom every year, has flourished even your?

Hi Simone,.

No, my could not flourish yet because I bought 2 tubers only last year in the fall. However, it seems only a tuber which to have become, the others noticed in autumn by the fact that she made no root. While they fall immediately after the pot a strong root drive. By the way, right next to it, that's a Typhonium venosum, which would flourish.

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Greeting
Ernie

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Sonntag, 15. April 2007, 12:52

Hello!
so now I am new here and can still not quite say, but I would like to welcome all of you!
But will the many contributions that will (hopefully) soon changed. :???:
I have also a Dracunculus vulgaris. last year I've had it (too small) pot in one, and it has flourished.
In the autumn I have planted then approx. 15 cm deep they in my rock garden (some sand and gravel to the bulb as a drainage layer) and in the spring was already the new shoot.
This is a lot stronger and bigger than last year.
'M curious times what da ranking grows for a flower!

Greetings
Tom

Flower of Dracunculus vulgaris
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... in the lot to a small pot...
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planted in the fall... and now it looks like this!
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Sonntag, 15. April 2007, 13:14

Hi Tom and welcome to the Forum!
Your Dracunculus vulgaris is Yes very beautiful out!
Was how big the flower and the tuber at the plant.

Mit grünen Grüßen

Niels

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Sonntag, 15. April 2007, 14:08

Hello Niels,.

so the bulb had about 6 cm in diameter and the flower was about 40 cm long!

Greetings
Tom

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Sonntag, 22. April 2007, 10:37

I wanted to order them, but unfortunately the tubers were sold out. :motz:

Then I'm waiting just till the autumn.

MfG Volker

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Montag, 23. April 2007, 07:59

Quoted from "TomTom"

... In the autumn I have planted then approx. 15 cm deep they in my rock garden (some sand and gravel to the bulb as a drainage layer) and in the spring was already the new shoot.
This is a lot stronger and bigger than last year.
'M curious times what da ranking grows for a flower!

Hi Tom Tom,.

I think my (still) in a large pot, not trust me so right that I have the single bulb planting out. Though, I would have to provide a humid place with plenty of shade. Further reports that your planting out how.

I could plant and root ball is probably still they, or is it better to put the bulb in the autumn on the spot?

Greeting
Ernie

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Mittwoch, 9. Mai 2007, 19:49

Hello Ernie,.

I find my Draculunculus actually quite insensitive...
The pot with your bulb in it, you are in the open air?
If so, would the plant actually nothing in the way.
If you however have it in the temperate housing, sometimes planting out the delay in growth after the.
I observed that my DRAC. According to the 6 leaf flowering pushed out. How much leaves has currently the yours???

Here are the current state of affairs:
the future flower is already clearly visible in the middle...

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Greetings
Tom

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Mittwoch, 9. Mai 2007, 23:27

Hi TomTom,.

Man, your good looks!
I have also planted out my now, it has also 6 leaves and pushes a flower. But the leaves look not as good as for you. May I gave her too much fertilizer. : shock:

The plant was previously in the pot out there, it should be so Hardy.

Will a picture of the plant make times.

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