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Hello everyone

want to install here a small update. Since I last year severely neglected my Amorphophallus and more have assembled no special soil mixes, I have fallen at transplanting the tubers back on my own blend for my other potted plants. Also, I have cultivated there is always my sensitive vegetables that were already in the bucket. I mean compost from the local compost factory.

The compost soil have I obtained in the spring and often bought 1.5 m³. It grew various plants and the rest was used as Mulchauflage for the perennial flower beds in the garden. Was important to get as finely sifted compost so not too high is the C/N ratio. Otherwise I would have to admit to much nitrogen during the growing season. Also, the named compost RAL is quality assured. As I pot to the potted plants only every three years, I have given in also perlite and Hygromull as aggregates. The ratio was 8:1:1. Everything in a large bucket of concrete and with a Bosch hammer properly mixed.

In the described Earth, I have whatever my other Amorphophallus eingetopf. At irregular intervals, liquid or blue was fertilized. Was never so the thoughts about it. The experiences were positive in hindsight for me. Also the soil life was very active. Earthworms are included.

This year I have all smaller tubers and I Cormels/-arme in a mixture of 1 part perlite and ~ 4 parts IKEA coconut substrate (KOKOSNÖT / ODLA) plantlets.
Who it is familiar, it is about the same as Kokohum, only cheaper.

For pot ballast and drainage I have sprinkled down some rough Lava in the pots.

Also in mixed some Osmocote fertilizer (the tomato version), is the coconut substrate is extremely low in nutrients. The recommended dosage is in grams per tomato plant, here I had to be more creative. : D

The main reason why I take the coconut substrate, is because regular potting soil with me in room culture of always reliably to explosive proliferation of Sciaridae leads. The coconut substrate, however, does not rot, so the Sciaridae not interested. Also I must buck up so no heavy Earth bag on the 4th floor.

Initially it looked not so well, after the expulsion of almost all plants in ODLA gate got the various spots on the leaves. I suspect salinization/eutrophication. From the Orchid culture, I know that coconut substrate is often extremely salt-loaded and must be flushed only several times before it can be used. The other theory was that I used too much fertilizer balls. As a precaution, I have flushed all the pots until the water with the same conductivity below out came as it flowed up into it.

Other plants have bacteria/yeast infections, because I've poured too much. The substrate dries up on the surface very quickly, because it is so loose, tempted to pour a while everything is still wet. A fuscus tuber moved so very early, has grown but still minimal.
Next year I'll still more perlite or fine lava add so that the substrate dries faster.

Still I have a couple of times as soon as the leaves have fully developed (3 x only because I had to pour so rarely) with Peter's plant Starter fertilizer cast, this is intended to promote the tuber growth due to the high phosphate content.

Here are the first results:

5 x shriveled ferruginosus Cormels grew by a total of 7 g to 93 g, a growth period of about 4 months (October end of may until the beginning).

Ferruginosus tubers are not all at the same time driven, but over a period of 3 weeks, which explains the size differences to something else.

1 x konjac breeding arm of 5 g 70 g grew at about the same time.

This tuber has driven a second sheet, which was well twice as large as the first.
Please ignore the sign, it is konjac, not fuscus!

I am thus already somewhat satisfied! Weight more than tenfold, that's good, or what do you think?

Hi Christian,.

prima documentation... Thank you!

So cheap and trauermücke retardant, but ver exsudative, (too) easy and possibly some getting on the fertilizing...
That the substrate is (too) easy, day before yesterday another plants friend told me, which is why he no longer takes it - much is out there with him and then at the slightest breath of wind overturning...

The tubers look but Salloum good! Going so well that I give it a try despite my bad opinion about coconut Earth next year once.

Happy growing, Bernhard.

P.S.: What does it cost KOKOSNÖT / ODLA because in the furniture store? Cheaper than here in post #149?
Amorphophallus gigas

I must wonder always about some special mixtures in the range of the Earth & substrates. The question that always does me: Need to actually work with so many aggregates? Perhaps it is also the different frameworks. My Amorphophallus stand during the entire vegetation period in the greenhouse with my vegetables. This allows for better control has the Kultuführung. Especially the watering can be controlled better here, as no precipitation ensures additional wetting. Accordingly can be poured as required. When the acute lack of space it will be too cumbersome to store different aggregates. Furthermore, a certain convenience is added.

Since I had no Amorphophallus more 6 years in room culture, I can say not much about Sciaridae. In earlier days, I had too much problems with it, as were the exotic and difficult species with me in the room. Here in a balcony greenhouse with 40 watt heating mat. This is I noticed that especially the alternation between wet and dry substrate fostered the conditions for Sciaridae. Perhaps, the observation was just plain wrong. In the greenhouse, have you not bothered anyway, me or are not directly noticed. Since there were only aphids on the eggplant. Had not even hanging yellow Panel in the greenhouse.

Perlite is of course super suitable for use as aggregate. The Isoself can be purchased at any hardware store. A 100 litre bag has filed with me always like 3-4 years. The yield was so great. Does Isoself actually even cheaper building material dealers?

Since compost is relatively poorly holding water, I get involved always Hygromull by COMPO in the Earth. Hygromull is manufactured on the basis of urea and acts as a sponge that absorbs water and stops. In addition, nutrients that are contained in the ground water, are recorded in addition. I found this stuff always tip. Got the 150 litre bag has been eight years. I bought his time at the Raiffeisen-Markt Hygromull. Eye protection, mouth guards are important when mixing. There is also a wind-free day advantage. Otherwise, the stuff flying around everywhere. Also, the completed Earth two days must emit. Formaldehyde, which is detrimental to the plant is produced in conjunction with the moisture in the soil.

I will make even next year at a documentation of my Earth.

Bernhard, ODLA is €2.29 for three blocks, which result in 15 l substrate according to IKEA as a whole. I consider this information for quite utopian, if one presses the substrate in the pot, half of it may come out. Without directly using the eBay substrate to compare it, is hard to say which is better.

I this year have used ordinary peat free organic soil (also with addition of Perlite) for my large tubers in large pots and had the worst grief mosquitoes since ever and ever. In every pot I put several large yellow signs, these were completely black after a week. Next year, I'll figure out, to buy coconut in large quantities, because I want to have in my apartment not twice as many Sciaridae, the critters fly one always in the nose and are extremely annoying.

Is also exciting as is the increase in the Earth pots. And, a comparison will be difficult because the plants are all much later expelled and grow well in the dark winter months.

Hi Christian,.

the ebay offer is purely mathematically then cheaper or similar from the price here, but I don't know whether the 9 L per briquette there are...
Benefit would be that the shipping at i-Bah is included; then, it saves the way to IKEA...

Happy growing, Bernhard.

That's a good point indeed! I order the just, which coincidentally just need to plant seeds.

Hello

I use it potting soil, easier the weight reduced by COMPO. Go do anything actually, I had only with organic soil
Vermin disaster par excellence. Accessories I had but this year due to time constraints, be already mixed in, and I noticed no difference.
I take marble gravel drainage, then a mild lime supply is also given as Yes the most Amorphies from calcareous areas.

Love greetings
Michael

PS: Perlite 100 l cost €19 in the building materials trade.

Hello
Interesting topic.
I learned that you should not use Baumarkt perlite because they are treated with some a crap, which can harm the plants. Also coconut substrate to make it very much salt. Oddly enough, some people use both without problems, and that partly for years. Is somehow always the same problem. It has proven itself by the one, the other, it ends in disaster.

I have mixed so far high quality potting soil with high-Moor peat, and with scattered perlite. But my success the last two years were very humble. Lost some tuber, because I've poured too much. The substrate was above always completely dry, but still very wet in the pot. And Sciaridae have felt very comfortable in it.

I'll plant konjacs my now in the coming year in the garden, at least over the summer. See how that works. And I want to try a try with coconut chips.

Have the last years too little noticed the tubers, that wants to change but by next year.

Greetings Ralf

There are also strong differences at the hardware store perlite. Since there is some product bitumen or resin are soaked. They are suitable for the culture of the plants, of course. This would then theoretically be disposed of as hazardous waste. Here, the character of the building material just plays a special role.

There are also various alternatives to the bulk insulation materials. The knob offers also PERLIGRAN. This is specifically made for professional horticulture. I can imagine that such a well-stocked agricultural products can be obtained. According to Internet the 100 liter bag is here approx. 18 euros.

I bought myself just a 100 litre bag Isoself at the beginning of the year. I came so far always super along with the product. My potted plants I have can never recognise obvious plant damage. According to the data sheet, it is also pH-neutral. This is important especially in the area of plant fertilization. If the pH value varies too much, it can be that various nutrients are no longer available to plants.

I let the fingers of finished potting soils and peat generally. Honestly, I must confess that I expressed here their preference for compost.

Thank you for the info. I also didn't yet. Then I'll look out next time.

Greetings Ralf

Substrate mixer,

pure Isoself without bitumen etc corresponds to the Agriperl or Perligran 0/6 (mm) Knauf probably.
But one disadvantage is that it is very dusty and actually also not much for the relaxation of the substrate contributes the fine shares.
I use 0-2 mm also Perligran or Agriperl therefore, in addition to Isoself 2/6, so without the group.

There in the horticultural trade, or even i-Bah:
https://www.eBay.de/Sch/i.html?_FROM=R40...riperl & _sacat = 0

Happy buying, Bernhard.

P.S.: The dust of course... , but not quite so strong...

@ Bernhard

Are you using Isolself and Perligran or Agriperl in fact parallel in your substrate mixtures? Or was it that you were still remaining stock of Isoself and want to now immediately need them?

Will these days times make me up to the local agricultural trade and ask for Perligran and Agriperl. Maybe you can get that and have good prices. You have to order everything on the net also OT. At the same time I can ask for Hygromull. The stock is also already the end.

Hi Niels,.

I use Isoself (bought at Obi or HORNBACH) or Perligran or Agriperl 2/6; the former in mixes for seedlings and small plants, letzters for larger plants / pots...
I have Isodelf 1/3 bag; 2/6 perlite/Perligran/Agriperl I have later ' time at i-Bah found and ordered. I like that better, since the Group actually brings nothing 0-2 mm for the loosening up of the substrate.

Happy growing, Bernhard.

Hello

the fine proportions of the building material perlite fall Yes thank God in the sack down; I will be only the last 10 liters in the sack, I'm quite happy with the rest. The question how this is still viable remains... I think the postage to Austria, then always.

Love greetings
Michael

I tried going a Raiffeisen market in the neighbouring district of Hygromull and Perligran. You think not how difficult it was loose to obtain the required products. Have a bag of Perligran (0-6) and Hygromull each classic. All other Garden Center and country trade had not in the range, or only for commercial wholesale products. Now I drove extra 40 km away for the aggregates. But think about how long the other bags have held, I have period years now again until 4-5

Small tip,

10 l Perligran 0-6mm is for EUR 20 shipping on ebay for 3 EUR more there is 2-6mm. Save free-ride on the rum.

I ordered a bag today again.

Greeting
Andreas

Hello of Andreas,

I hope you did because incorrectly... I mean the liter...

https://www.eBay.de/Sch/i.html?_FROM=R40...riperl & _sacat = 0

Happy buying, Bernhard.

Hello everyone

I would like to revive the thread with the new Knollensaison. I've mixed substrate again diligently. As a precursor, I take compost from our compost facility in the neighborhood. Here I refer to approx. 1 cbm each year with a trailer. The compost is used as a substrate for my vegetable growing in the pot. Potting soil is there simply too expensive to me. I can get the compost of €12,50 / cbm. The compost is even certified.

As aggregate for my Amorphophallus and the other potted plants that are repotted infrequently, I use still Isoself and Hygromull to the ground loosening up and for the purpose of better water management. Otherwise, the compost tends to be strong compression and waterlogging. Mixing ratio 10:1:1 has proved. Want to have to buy Yes not every year the aggregates. I use a Bosch hammer with cement mixer for optimal mixing results. The whole thing can be mix well in a mortar box.

In the course of the growing season I fertilizer with blue or with commercially available liquid fertilizer. But have no special products in use.

Hello

I have today discovered this bag Zeoponic in the hardware store with the Beaver and then also bought. The price has not deterred me. 15 litres for 9.99 euros. Was pretty hard... had a long way home


It is a mixture of pumice, expanded clay and zeolite. It is considered finished substrate for "tropical and Mediterranean plants and as an alternative to conventional potting soil".

There is even no organic matter. And is on fertilized.

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What do you think?

I would like some Amorphophallus and other aerosol plants try this year. I is similar like Seramis in the structure.

So curious about. Can imagine that it works well, the oxygenation of the roots well and determines the opacity also.

Many greetings

Christoph