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Samstag, 30. Dezember 2006, 14:12

Welche Erde nehmt ihr

Hello

so I must again address the vexing issue, because this season I've lost many stinker by my Earth.

I had mixed quality Earth, with fine sand, perlite, and Kokohum.
However the ground has condenses very.

I have used the Earth also pure and almost my large paeoniifolius killed. Fortunately, I could save them in emergency surgery. Unfortunately, my not titanum: cry:

Which Earth (which company) take you for there and what mixes her because everything in?

Gruss Stephan

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Samstag, 30. Dezember 2006, 17:33

Hi Stephan,.

You may not take fine sand; He makes the substrate be too, but compresses it more.

By Kokohum, I think personally not much since it I think is too fine and does not hold its structure in the long term.
Since I am still on washed white peat or unit Earth for the professional gardener, which consists of 60% of little zersetztem white peat and 40% clay.

Perlite is good, very porous and structural stability.

I have some last August titanum in unit Earth (EE) compared with a self-mixed substrate (per 1 / 3 unit Earth P (which is grow speech Volldünger with 1.5 kg / M m³)), perlite and charcoal 0-4 mm) getopft.
The substrate is based on the recommendation of malesiana.com.
See: http://www.malesiana.com/html/aroids_pg10.htm

Result: In EE the root looked not very good in December and were largely away gefault; the malesiana mix, they looked very well; strong roots, good root ball. As well, as I have never seen her at titanum.

The observations and experiences depend of course whatever of the culture conditions, especially temperature and pouring.
A similar unit soil substrate successfully used in the botanical gardens in Bonn.

If you to abundance pours at low temperatures, you can kill his plants in the malesiana mix.

It is a pity because your titanum, Shrek; was it because how big?

MfG,
Bernhard.

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Montag, 1. Januar 2007, 19:16

She was 1 years old, about 30 cm high.

I had noticed a foul point and remove them first. The body is dried well. Unfortunately, the tissue around the sewage Agency is now soft.
I know that man should hope never give up, but since I see no chance more.

Perhaps I get ergendwann one again: cry:: cry:

To the Earth. I bought now Earth me, containing much humus. In addition guano, lava stone and peat. If I again eintopfe tubers, I'll look times what I can intervene there.

Is the Earth "Florahum" by flora gård.
http://www.floragard.de/Deutsch/hobby/2006/outdoor1.php

Though was almost 12? / 70 L bag does not come cheap, but that deserve me my favorites.

Gruss Stephan

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Donnerstag, 4. Januar 2007, 14:15

So, my favorites have an Earth from pine bark and soeiner expensive, 7? Earth powered without peat. The two components are mixed respectively to 1: 1 and it comes out a loose substrate what Nice can be through the water: wink:

PS: The new forum looks so times very beautiful from Stephan:D
Mit grünen Grüßen

Niels :D

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Donnerstag, 4. Januar 2007, 17:50

Thank you for the flowers, Niels. I work even it:-)

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Dienstag, 20. Februar 2007, 20:29

Kleines Substratvergleich-Update

Hello of Amorphophallusfans,

in August last year I have getopft some of my titanum with (based on the recommendation of malesiana) in P when compared to a substrate unit per 1 / 3 unit soil, perlite, and charcoal (0-4 mm).

Here is the result:




The images speak for themselves....: icon_biggrin:

Particularly amazing, I find that the diameter of the leaf stem is not very different.
The page height is, however, consistently higher in the "Malesiana mix".

What the tubers look like, not yet I, will report but they...

MfG,
Bernhard.

P.S.: Who is frequent guest on Peter's Forum, knows the contribution may be already...:icon_razz:

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Mittwoch, 21. Februar 2007, 05:58

I use even potting soil and Perlite.Sand or other additives as I let it the finger. : p
Failures due to wrong substrate I had last year no. * holzklopf *.
MfG Volker

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Mittwoch, 28. Februar 2007, 19:25

Substrate

Hi Bernard,.
I have your substrate recipe here and read in another forum. For the 1 / 3 part unit Earth using 60% peat and 40% clay. How do I from sound to everything in the world? Then the same question charcoal from where you get this, I think however, fine charcoal produced?
Erwin

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Mittwoch, 28. Februar 2007, 19:39

Sound is mostly in expensive soil. Have bought me a 40 litre bag for 7 euros. The Earth is riddled with small clay balls. When the coal nimmste simply commercial charcoal, are doing something in a linen or Jutesack, lace up to him and hämmerst in the beautiful with a stick on it, so that the charcoal is small.
Mit grünen Grüßen

Niels :D

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Mittwoch, 28. Februar 2007, 20:33

Kohle und Einheitserde

Hi Erwin,.

Unit Earth is a protected term for a standardized horticultural Earth.

Gugst you ' time here:

http://www.einheitserde.de/Produkte/einheitserde.html

You must mix the sound so not even in the peat;-)

Niels has since getting pretty; good, then unfortunately somewhat more expensive soils contain generally sound, which then forms the legendary clay-humus complexes with the peat.
No, not :icon_irre: or :icon_lachtot: , that is truly so....

The eulogies on the unit Earth page you can see the benefits of such Earth - and this is not ' times ironically said that the Earth is really good.

Charcoal: Niels proposal with the charcoal is feasible; so always druff....: löl:

Or you're trying to find a source for Holzkohlengries; He falls in the production of barbecue coal and is sold sack-or truck-wise, according to your needs.

I got the me a coal plant near the city of Göttingen.

Gugst you (again) here:
http://www.holzkohle.de/default.htm

There is still a work in the Lüneburg Heath; if I remember rightly, where there are still more in the Republic is, I don't know.

MfG,
Bernhard.

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Freitag, 13. April 2007, 13:55

Mal ne question, where do get from I type T unit Earth?

is there a onlinehandel?

Gruss Stephan

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Freitag, 13. April 2007, 15:11

Hi Stephan,.

If there is an online trading, I don't know
but I would ask first simply in a nursery at Raiffeisen or a gardening supplies.

To Mrs p.-s ( :icon_irre3: ) attempts to talk to:

"Since you be helped....":D

MfG,
Bernhard.

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Freitag, 4. Mai 2007, 23:20

The United or other is stone now myself, but...
...ICH swear by Zimmerpflanzen-and universal Earth!

& regularly fertilize
& regular water
& sunny location
& warm, warm, and once again warm

Hello you
Martin

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Samstag, 5. Mai 2007, 11:50

Hier wird niemand gesteinigt, höchtens angepöbelt....

Hi Martin,

but I'll leave others Twick.it....;-)

But on the subject:

How does your titanum in the universal Earth?
What is the composition at the bag?

MfG,
Bernhard.

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Sonntag, 6. Mai 2007, 22:06

Already thought that "Universal Earth" caused head-shaking. I no longer have the medium bag, can therefore say nothing about the composition.
As soon as my two titans "rest" I will make pictures of the beauties.
From my exotica (bulbifer konjac excludes) no bulb grows otherwise so magnificently!
Greeting
Martin

Philipp

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Mittwoch, 19. September 2012, 01:08

Holzkohle

Hello together,

don't know if anyone remembers this topic here, it has in any case all the time on me. I found very impressive Bernhard then attempts:
http://www.baumfarn.at/treefern/viewtopi...hilit=holzkohle

And then a real terra preta hype has broken out in recent years, where the charcoal also plays an important role.

HAB informed me at least something (neutral!), the positive effects on plant growth and health are relatively well documented and can be explained also sound - probably mainly with the surface structure and the high cations exchange capacity.
So I this year times properly charcoal small carved, bucket plant Earth thus mixed and tested on approximately 200 plants including Amorphophallus/Typhonium/Arum, Passiflora, Aristolochia, Brugmansia and more. There were only non-serious control group tests and without objective evaluation of the results, no science, it wanted to make but only to see whether this makes sense for me under practical conditions. My patio plants blend is composed as follows:

6 Parts unit Earth T (or one of the almost identical competitive products...)
2 Parts perlite
2 Parts expanded clay (temporary solution, dear lava or broken expanded clay didn't...)
1 Part vermiculite (clay minerals must also be...)
1 Part charcoal
1/4 Part of rock flour (K.A. bringing obs, harm tuts anyway not...)

As you can see I used much less coal than Bernhard, the effect was still evident. Fact that the coal with organic mass, nor with mineral fertilizers was treated, she has hampered initially obviously the nutrient uptake of plants. The vines, Brugmansia, Colocasia and Xanthosoma grew first almost not or with significant deficiency symptoms up to leaf margin necrosis. Root development was enormous but from the outset, had never before seen a such strong root system in all these plants. This made later well paid, the above-ground growth was seen on the season extremely well, the flowering ability also.
When the Aroids me striking that that still stand now in September as the summer long not to end were still. Everywhere still strong roots, much more tubers than usual have blasted the pots green leaves and absolutely no fungal. This was a significantly different picture last year.

Am curious on how, will I leave the vines time some years in this substrate. The Aroids I will prepare for next year a little bit different the Earth, to vll. the start-up difficulties something to avoid.

VG Philipp

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Mittwoch, 19. September 2012, 19:46

Hi Philip,.

Thank you for your interesting post. Have not guessed that charcoal does not so much.
Very interesting.

MfG
Stephan

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Samstag, 29. September 2012, 16:14

Hi Philip,.

Thanks for the descriptions of your experience with charcoal in the substrate. Your observations are quite interesting even without control; I think if you already work with plants, you have an eye for sure even without a direct comparison with a control, whether the plants grow better or look than before the action.

At some point blank last year has been my big bag with Holzkohlengries and I have gone ahead then just without so only with unit Earth and perlite.
Now I don't even have access to unit Earth more and I'm not so happy with the new Garden Center Earth.
After your experience, I'll try to brush up on my new substrate with charcoal.

A friend has had good experiences with charcoal in the substrate also in Phalaenopsis...

Happy growing, Bernhard.

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Sonntag, 30. September 2012, 15:30

Hi Bernard,.

Yes, I think I recognize something in the meantime quite well. Yes the usual institutions for more meaningful attempts, there's, which have also people who voluntarily join the barren evaluate.:D

No access to unit Earth? Gibts in your area no gardener, who also the growing media sold himself used?
The advantage of the charcoal is that it can identify the grain itself. For patio plants I have left it deliberately slightly coarser, for young plants I have sifted out even the finer shares.

VG Philipp

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Sonntag, 30. September 2012, 16:51

Hello Philiipp,

Yes, I could ask the gardener in the environment actually once again; Raiffeisen had previously always unit Earth, but offer only COMPO and thats open said me too expensive; What zumidest with the background knowledge, pay the gardener for a bag.

Happy growing, Bernhard.

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